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Melania drops 67% at US box office as Rotten Tomatoes defends record-breaking audience scores

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  • P Phoenixz

    RT critic score always was shite, they would push expensive shit projects in the 90+% range constantly.

    The audience score usually has been more reliable but as this instance shows, it's super easy to manipulate as well.

    IMDB scores are much more reliable

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    nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world
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    My dude, critics just value different things than everyday audiences. When you watch movies for a living you become jaded and value uniqueness more than anything. General audiences care a whole lot less about uniqueness and just want something entertaining. That's why you get off the wall stuff with high critic ratings but low audience ratings, or fairly generic but entertaining stuff with low critic ratings but high audience ratings.

    Just know how to read the scores and RT is still the most useful around. Critic score are uniqueness, cinematography, and potentially storytelling. Critics also like drama much more than the average person. Audience scores are for entertainment value. But you also need to take the scores in context of genres you like. If you love scifi and a movie has a 50% audience score, you'll probably enjoy it plenty. If you hate scifi it's probably not for you at all.

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    • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

      For obvious propaganda pieces like this, that's how "Verified Audience" reviews will always be. In order to be counted you need to have purchased a ticket through one of RT's partners, so it's self-selecting. No sane person is going to buy a ticket to this bribe masquerading as a documentary, so it's only insane Republicans being counted towards that score.

      You can select "All Audience" if you want to see everyone. It's at 29%, even after Republicans' review boosting campaign.

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      samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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      #61

      Yup. Giving it a positive review is basically saying "I support Trump" since nothing involving him could ever be bad in any way to them, and of course 99% of the people who actually paid to see it will be Trump supporters.

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      • M mech@feddit.org

        RT looking almost as bad as RT.

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        in_my_honest_opinion
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        Take the rest of the week off after that one.

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        • Eternal192E Eternal192

          Trump would probably support the sex worker industry but they are all too old for him.

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          in_my_honest_opinion
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          No he wouldn't even if he weren't a pedo. He'd never actually pay someone for honest labor.

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          • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

            My dude, critics just value different things than everyday audiences. When you watch movies for a living you become jaded and value uniqueness more than anything. General audiences care a whole lot less about uniqueness and just want something entertaining. That's why you get off the wall stuff with high critic ratings but low audience ratings, or fairly generic but entertaining stuff with low critic ratings but high audience ratings.

            Just know how to read the scores and RT is still the most useful around. Critic score are uniqueness, cinematography, and potentially storytelling. Critics also like drama much more than the average person. Audience scores are for entertainment value. But you also need to take the scores in context of genres you like. If you love scifi and a movie has a 50% audience score, you'll probably enjoy it plenty. If you hate scifi it's probably not for you at all.

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            anistorian
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            This is the most useful comment I read in a long time.

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            • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

              I actually make perfect sense given recent changes RT made. In order to leave an audience review and be counted towards the score, you need to be a verified viewer. Like, someone who has paid for a ticket through an RT partner like Fandango. The reason for this recent change was to prevent review bombing, like what happens on every movie conservatives hate. It obviously has some major drawbacks, like we can see for this movie's verified audience ratings, as only bootlickers would ever watch this garbage fire propaganda. So we only see their ratings here.

              However, we can still see the all-audience ratings by clicking on the score and selecting that option. It's currently sitting at 29%, and that's even after a Republican campaign to boost the score.

              So, we have critic scores at 10% (as of this very moment), which makes sense because the movie is trash and only the Republican culture warriors are giving it a thumbs up. Then only ticket purchasing viewers have their score taken into consideration for the "Verified Audience" score, so you only get bootlickers and of course they're all giving it a perfect score.

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              eatcasserole@lemmy.world
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              Ah yes, the "all audience" button makes it make sense.

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              • T thepantser@sh.itjust.works

                Buying a ticket and actually watching the movie are two different things. For all we know all those that "bought" a ticket and left a review are all the military personnel that were ordered to go see it and probably were ordered to leave a glowing review.

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                BeeegScaaawyCripple
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                what's that meme about russian bot farms only this time it's rt reviews

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                • Y you_are_dust

                  How can you even have a documentary about possibly the most uninteresting person on earth? I'm not sure that I've even heard her speak before. A documentary about my neighbor would be more intriguing.

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                  flamingleg@lemmy.ml
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                  what is the deal with your neighbour?

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                  • P Prove_your_argument

                    for boston they had a craigslist post asking for people to go and be paid for launch night

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                    asqapro@reddthat.com
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                    I assume you're referring to this post which was definitely fake. The numbers in the ad are prank numbers.

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                      sektor@lemmy.world
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                      It's only so that Narcissist pedo think she's doing great. They show him 99 and put the thumb over the 9 %.

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                        sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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                        Just read the reviews compared to a normal reviewed movie like toy story 2.

                        "I I really enjoy this sequel" - 3.5 Stars Good B

                        Good B is a harsh critic for sure. But nothing like that for Melania. What are the chances two humans use double exclamation marks right after each other? How many people use hyphens? 50% of people like in the 4 sample size for Melania?

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                        • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                          I came to that conclusion after paying money to see Brad pitt in F1 following 97% scores.

                          They took the exact plot of Stallone's Driven, to date the worst movie ever made about racing, or anything else.

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                          nosuchanon@lemmy.world
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                          I like Driven. It is definitely a cheesy movie but it is actually more believable in some ways. No way any driver just steps into a modern F1 car and starts winning.

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                          • S sludgeyy@lemmy.world

                            Just read the reviews compared to a normal reviewed movie like toy story 2.

                            "I I really enjoy this sequel" - 3.5 Stars Good B

                            Good B is a harsh critic for sure. But nothing like that for Melania. What are the chances two humans use double exclamation marks right after each other? How many people use hyphens? 50% of people like in the 4 sample size for Melania?

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                            tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world
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                            Either bots or poor people from developing countries are paid to make positive comments of the movie.

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                            • T tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world

                              Either bots or poor people from developing countries are paid to make positive comments of the movie.

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                              sludgeyy@lemmy.world
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                              You do not get non-native speakers writing "perfect" reviews.

                              It could be AI responsives submitted by hand.

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                              • N nihilistic_mystics@lemmy.world

                                For obvious propaganda pieces like this, that's how "Verified Audience" reviews will always be. In order to be counted you need to have purchased a ticket through one of RT's partners, so it's self-selecting. No sane person is going to buy a ticket to this bribe masquerading as a documentary, so it's only insane Republicans being counted towards that score.

                                You can select "All Audience" if you want to see everyone. It's at 29%, even after Republicans' review boosting campaign.

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                                skisnow@lemmy.ca
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                                Given everything we've learned in the last few years, the chances are extremely high that at least half those purchased tickets don't correspond with a living person actually sitting in a cinema seat.

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                                • Y yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today

                                  They've been obvious shills for at least a decade. All you have to do is look at any new release. They rarely get below 80/90%. Every single fucking movie can't be the citizen Kane they claim it is.

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                                  hzl
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                                  If only people who buy tickets can leave the initial reviews, that kind of makes sense. Their system selects for people who are interested in the premise of the movie.

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                                    gecko
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                                    dead internet theory

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                                    • N nosuchanon@lemmy.world

                                      I like Driven. It is definitely a cheesy movie but it is actually more believable in some ways. No way any driver just steps into a modern F1 car and starts winning.

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                                      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                      Uh...oh nevermind. Netflix ruined F1.

                                      Driven was originally supposed to be an F1 movie, but when Bernie Ecclestone got wind of that stupid plot he kicked Stallone out of Europe.

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                                        I assume you're referring to this post which was definitely fake. The numbers in the ad are prank numbers.

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                                        Prove_your_argument
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                                        Perhaps, but it's still believable, if past reports of similar things for this family are true. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-campaign-offered-actors-803161/

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                                        • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                                          I saw that too. They were all a bunch of rich Republicans. The screening was at the Kennedy center so it wouldn't surprise me if basically everyone watching that screening was a government worker (or their friend/family) who probably moved to DC specifically to work for their favorite fascist.

                                          I also wondered how those people could be real and studying them wouldn't be a bad idea.

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                                          fake_meows@sopuli.xyz
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                                          Paid crisis actors.

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