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  • oyzmo@lemmy.worldO oyzmo@lemmy.world

    Had a LAN together with 10 friends last weekend. We played BAR. What an absolute amazing game!! 1000s of units, AI and large scale battles - No lagging, No crashing.. just ran smooth all the time, even on old crappy gfx cards with 4gb memory. Wow!

    Highly recommend trying. We disabled tech level 2 and 3 the first rounds, then just 3 and finally ran everything. A nice way to start without being overwhelmed:)

    If you loved Starcraft and RA2, try this game 🥰

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    AmidFuror
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    We used to hide copies of Snipes on the school network and play it on their LAN during programming class. No GPU required.

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    • oyzmo@lemmy.worldO oyzmo@lemmy.world

      Had a LAN together with 10 friends last weekend. We played BAR. What an absolute amazing game!! 1000s of units, AI and large scale battles - No lagging, No crashing.. just ran smooth all the time, even on old crappy gfx cards with 4gb memory. Wow!

      Highly recommend trying. We disabled tech level 2 and 3 the first rounds, then just 3 and finally ran everything. A nice way to start without being overwhelmed:)

      If you loved Starcraft and RA2, try this game 🥰

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      gladaed@feddit.org
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      Bottle neck for RTS would neither be memory or GPU but parallelization, cpu performance and memory speed.

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      • oyzmo@lemmy.worldO oyzmo@lemmy.world

        Had a LAN together with 10 friends last weekend. We played BAR. What an absolute amazing game!! 1000s of units, AI and large scale battles - No lagging, No crashing.. just ran smooth all the time, even on old crappy gfx cards with 4gb memory. Wow!

        Highly recommend trying. We disabled tech level 2 and 3 the first rounds, then just 3 and finally ran everything. A nice way to start without being overwhelmed:)

        If you loved Starcraft and RA2, try this game 🥰

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        Droechai
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        Is it similar to games in Spring engine?

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        • G gladaed@feddit.org

          Bottle neck for RTS would neither be memory or GPU but parallelization, cpu performance and memory speed.

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          redacted@infosec.pub
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          This is a huge issue for Command and Conquer: Generals. I can't play it even with 13700k with high difficulty bots because sooner or later I get few FPS. I don't remember the game actually lagging this bad on older hardware

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          • R redacted@infosec.pub

            This is a huge issue for Command and Conquer: Generals. I can't play it even with 13700k with high difficulty bots because sooner or later I get few FPS. I don't remember the game actually lagging this bad on older hardware

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            gladaed@feddit.org
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            I remember sup com lagging, badly. Never did CNC.

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            • oyzmo@lemmy.worldO oyzmo@lemmy.world

              Had a LAN together with 10 friends last weekend. We played BAR. What an absolute amazing game!! 1000s of units, AI and large scale battles - No lagging, No crashing.. just ran smooth all the time, even on old crappy gfx cards with 4gb memory. Wow!

              Highly recommend trying. We disabled tech level 2 and 3 the first rounds, then just 3 and finally ran everything. A nice way to start without being overwhelmed:)

              If you loved Starcraft and RA2, try this game 🥰

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              little8lost@lemmy.world
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              Seen the large scale wars on youtube. I am scared of trying it because i dont have time

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              • oyzmo@lemmy.worldO oyzmo@lemmy.world

                Had a LAN together with 10 friends last weekend. We played BAR. What an absolute amazing game!! 1000s of units, AI and large scale battles - No lagging, No crashing.. just ran smooth all the time, even on old crappy gfx cards with 4gb memory. Wow!

                Highly recommend trying. We disabled tech level 2 and 3 the first rounds, then just 3 and finally ran everything. A nice way to start without being overwhelmed:)

                If you loved Starcraft and RA2, try this game 🥰

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                ObscureOtter
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                https://www.beyondallreason.info/

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                • ArghblargA Arghblarg

                  I played Total Annihilation many years ago w/friends at a LAN party... good times (I always sucked at it, the name described my fate well :P)

                  Looks fun!

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                  kalpol@lemmy.ca
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                  Gog has TA and you can still play it, and stil multiplayer with some fiddling. Supreme Commander is good too. I think you can swap out AI engines on TA but never tried it.

                  BAR looks fun.

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                  • G gladaed@feddit.org

                    Bottle neck for RTS would neither be memory or GPU but parallelization, cpu performance and memory speed.

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                    doodleschmit@lemmy.world
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                    I played a fair amount of SupCom Forged Alliance with a community patch/mod called FaF. It's amazing the work that team put forth to make the game run well, but this must've been the problem they couldn't really fix entirely. Played amazingly when I played solo against AI, but once I played with friends online, the in-game speed would start to slow to a crawl by the mid to late game, seemingly driven by unit counts/activity. Game was tons of fun to play, but it was hard to play with my group when the endgame was basically playing in slow motion.

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                    • K kalpol@lemmy.ca

                      Gog has TA and you can still play it, and stil multiplayer with some fiddling. Supreme Commander is good too. I think you can swap out AI engines on TA but never tried it.

                      BAR looks fun.

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                      daddledew@lemmy.world
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                      #18

                      IMO Supreme Commander failed to capture the original game's soul. You had a sense of an epic battle going on when playing. I think it was because it always devolved into playing all zoomed out, watching tiny strategic icons moving across the map, blinking and disappearing. I can't even tell you what any of the units looked like because we almost never see them. The fact that they gave generic names to units and structures such as "level one point defence turret" didn't help either.

                      BAR does a much better job of keeping the player zoomed in and into the action, seeing and feeling so the cool details of the battle going on. Heavy plasma batteries blowing up chunks of advancing armies and terrain, lasers blowing up individual targets in rapid succession, sending debris flying everywhere, this was all what TA was about.

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                      • K kalpol@lemmy.ca

                        Gog has TA and you can still play it, and stil multiplayer with some fiddling. Supreme Commander is good too. I think you can swap out AI engines on TA but never tried it.

                        BAR looks fun.

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                        zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        Making your own AI variations was one of the coolest things about SupCom.

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                        • D Droechai

                          Is it similar to games in Spring engine?

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                          bogosort@discuss.tchncs.de
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                          It is a fork of Spring engine, called Recoil, so yes.

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                          • oyzmo@lemmy.worldO oyzmo@lemmy.world

                            Had a LAN together with 10 friends last weekend. We played BAR. What an absolute amazing game!! 1000s of units, AI and large scale battles - No lagging, No crashing.. just ran smooth all the time, even on old crappy gfx cards with 4gb memory. Wow!

                            Highly recommend trying. We disabled tech level 2 and 3 the first rounds, then just 3 and finally ran everything. A nice way to start without being overwhelmed:)

                            If you loved Starcraft and RA2, try this game 🥰

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                            I Cast Fist
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                            Where can I get 8 5 1 friend for LAN play? 😞

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                            • little8lost@lemmy.worldL little8lost@lemmy.world

                              Seen the large scale wars on youtube. I am scared of trying it because i dont have time

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                              I Cast Fist
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                              The game is all about skirmishes. If you've ever played total annihilation or supreme commander, matches' length are close.
                              On small maps, anywhere from 15-40 minutes. Huge maps can take way longer

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                              • R redacted@infosec.pub

                                This is a huge issue for Command and Conquer: Generals. I can't play it even with 13700k with high difficulty bots because sooner or later I get few FPS. I don't remember the game actually lagging this bad on older hardware

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                                I Cast Fist
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                                You're getting significant lag with Generals? I never got anywhere close to that on a ~2012 mid rig, even on a 4v4 match

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                                • little8lost@lemmy.worldL little8lost@lemmy.world

                                  Seen the large scale wars on youtube. I am scared of trying it because i dont have time

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                                  drstevebrule@mander.xyz
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                                  The customization in this game is great so games can be as small or large as you'd like. I've set up games that take as little as 15 minutes. The campaign also starts off with small games that take about half an hour. It was my first RTS so I'm sure it took me much longer as I wasn't familiar with the general strategy of those kind of games.

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                                  • I Cast FistI I Cast Fist

                                    You're getting significant lag with Generals? I never got anywhere close to that on a ~2012 mid rig, even on a 4v4 match

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                                    redacted@infosec.pub
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                                    It happens in specific maps, not sure why. Zero hour

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                                    • doodleschmit@lemmy.worldD doodleschmit@lemmy.world

                                      I played a fair amount of SupCom Forged Alliance with a community patch/mod called FaF. It's amazing the work that team put forth to make the game run well, but this must've been the problem they couldn't really fix entirely. Played amazingly when I played solo against AI, but once I played with friends online, the in-game speed would start to slow to a crawl by the mid to late game, seemingly driven by unit counts/activity. Game was tons of fun to play, but it was hard to play with my group when the endgame was basically playing in slow motion.

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                                      gladaed@feddit.org
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                                      Exactly my experience.

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                                      • D daddledew@lemmy.world

                                        IMO Supreme Commander failed to capture the original game's soul. You had a sense of an epic battle going on when playing. I think it was because it always devolved into playing all zoomed out, watching tiny strategic icons moving across the map, blinking and disappearing. I can't even tell you what any of the units looked like because we almost never see them. The fact that they gave generic names to units and structures such as "level one point defence turret" didn't help either.

                                        BAR does a much better job of keeping the player zoomed in and into the action, seeing and feeling so the cool details of the battle going on. Heavy plasma batteries blowing up chunks of advancing armies and terrain, lasers blowing up individual targets in rapid succession, sending debris flying everywhere, this was all what TA was about.

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                                        cybranm@feddit.nu
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                                        Don't you dare slander SupCom, best game, I'm very unbiased

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                                        • B bogosort@discuss.tchncs.de

                                          It is a fork of Spring engine, called Recoil, so yes.

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                                          Droechai
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                                          Okay, thanks! It felt similar so good to know. I like the idea of spring, so will definately check it out closer!

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