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No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

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  • A allzeitbereit@feddit.uk

    It'll happen in the Fediverse too.

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    wrote last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml
    #103

    yeah, i havent seen anyone come up with a solution so far. nobody really seems to know when i bring it up.

    usually some implication the problem is gonna solve itself. we might be fucked. eventually.

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    • K kahnclusions@lemmy.ca

      100% written by an LLM. They always use this tone and it’s infuriating.

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      ByteOnBikes
      wrote last edited by
      #104

      People who abuse GenAI no longer can tell when the shit they post look like GenAI. They only talk to AI so it looks normal to them.

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      • saarthS saarth

        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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        snazz@lemmy.world
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        #105

        What a self report. This guy is complicit in turning the age of information into the age of propaganda.

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        • lechekaflanL lechekaflan

          More than a decade and a half later and pretentious SEO fanatics still fucking make my eyes roll.

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          lightnsfw@reddthat.com
          wrote last edited by
          #106

          Never forget that the morally correct thing to do if you happen to meet one of these people it to punch them in the mouth.

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          • M munkisquisher@lemmy.nz

            That's one of the signs of LLM output, take any idea and have it flesh it out into short article. It'll bullet point the crap out of it

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            lightnsfw@reddthat.com
            wrote last edited by
            #107

            LLMs learned it by watching these idiots.

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            • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

              Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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              valkyre09@lemmy.world
              wrote last edited by
              #108

              I get the feeling you and Bill Hicks would have gotten along: https://youtu.be/9h9wStdPkQY

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              • john_tJ john_t

                There's no algorithm to be played in the fediverse. The reward is too low for all the work of making a post visible, and it won't carry to the next post, essentially starting all over again.

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                sl00k@programming.dev
                wrote last edited by
                #109

                The Hot ordering is itself an algorithm.

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                • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

                  Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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                  hupf@feddit.org
                  wrote last edited by
                  #110

                  https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_Ship_B

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                  • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

                    People downvote me when I say it. That's all cope. We're not wrong; if and when this goes mainstream, it'll attract the same bad actors just as heavily.

                    Of course, there are surely already a few here testing the waters.

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                    sl00k@programming.dev
                    wrote last edited by
                    #111

                    I agree the Fediverse is not in a good spot for something like this.

                    I actually think this is where the identity system of atproto will be more impactful here as it allows a better verification system. I've been thinking lately you should be able to use hardware attestation + biometric attestation on apps to filter these emulated users out.

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                    • saarthS saarth

                      Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                      Dr. Moose
                      wrote last edited by
                      #112

                      US is full of companies that publicly claim to manipulate reddit threads as PR protection. They all do it exactly like you'd expect - people with dozens of phones going through threads writing shit. Even if users are banned and their phone fingerprinted they just dump the phones for new ones.

                      Reddit knows could actually sue them and very likely to win but that would be a lot of attention at them.

                      The best part of this is - if commercial PR companies can afford to run this then what China, Russia and such are doing must have absolutely bonkers. There's very little internet actually left organic.

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                      • addie@feddit.ukA addie@feddit.uk

                        If you've any suggestion on how to implement that, then it's a million-dollar idea.

                        The "I'm a human" test that only takes a few seconds and then lets you do what you like for an hour was always vulnerable to 'auth farms'. Pay some poor bastards in the third world a pittance to pass the test a thousand times an hour, let the bots run wild. And the bots have gained the ability to pass the tests themselves, at least by boiling the oceans in some datacentre while the VC money holds out.

                        Finding the people running the bots, fitting them with some very heavy boots and then seeing if they can swim in the deep ocean is probably needlessly cruel, but I'd be up for tarring and feathering a few. Once the videos got out, the rest might think harder about their life choices...

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                        sl00k@programming.dev
                        wrote last edited by
                        #113

                        Most of this work is done via emulators if you have a hardware attestation process built in, it will stop most of it. Obviously you still have a problem with phone farms but those are much more expensive than emulators and there's a physical capacity to them.

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                        • O Oascany

                          This is so funny because I'm Indian and I've never come across a Hindi sub on Reddit.

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                          mulligrubs@lemmy.world
                          wrote last edited by
                          #114

                          I'm not even exaggerating, EVERY DAY in my feed repeatedly, not even in English, absolutely zero discernible reason. No Chinese. No Brazilian. No German. It's not even random.

                          Also, Jesus ads. "He gets us". Why Jesus ads in English AND Hindi Indian subs? It's almost spiteful

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                          • saarthS saarth

                            Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                            anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
                            wrote last edited by
                            #115

                            the internet needs to be burnt to the ground and built back up for humans to humans.
                            I hate this timeline were are living in

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                            • T theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world

                              The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                              notbadandyou@ttrpg.network
                              wrote last edited by
                              #116

                              Decent chance that post was written by AI as well. Or it was a marketing copywriter. Either way it wasn't written by a normal human.

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                              • saarthS saarth

                                Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca
                                wrote last edited by
                                #117

                                "These days"? Reddit has been hot garbage since before the 3rd party API bullshit

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                                • saarthS saarth

                                  Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                  auth@lemmy.world
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #118

                                  Its scum behavior but its smart. If you can get your product into a reddit thread that gives a ton of free high quality advertising. Its why the site turned to site so fast once normal people found out about it. Suddenly you had products being shilled in every community and threads created solely for the purpose of posting a reply that said to buy a product. AI is just a cherry ontop of the already souless reddit behaviour and quite frankly its what they deserve.

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                                  • T theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world

                                    The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                                    underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #119

                                    Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

                                    A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

                                    Normal Users:

                                    • Post replies

                                    • Up and Downvote

                                    • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

                                    And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

                                    Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

                                    But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

                                    So we came up with

                                    Something that's

                                    Even better than

                                    What we used

                                    To post like

                                    Before

                                    We first started using

                                    This online

                                    digital service

                                    For posting our

                                    Thoughts to

                                    Other

                                    Pe

                                    ople

                                    It's called memes.

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                                    • C cosmonauticus@lemmy.world

                                      Nahhhh. When ads are clever or funny its fine. This lower effort bullshit need to die

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                                      banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #120

                                      Nah. manipulating people into buying things they don't need is a trash career. It's not a productive or necessary job. It hurts more than it can ever help.

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                                      • saarthS saarth

                                        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                        avicenna@programming.dev
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                                        #121

                                        here is to hoping that lemmy never grows

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                                        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                                          Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

                                          A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

                                          Normal Users:

                                          • Post replies

                                          • Up and Downvote

                                          • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

                                          And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

                                          Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

                                          But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

                                          So we came up with

                                          Something that's

                                          Even better than

                                          What we used

                                          To post like

                                          Before

                                          We first started using

                                          This online

                                          digital service

                                          For posting our

                                          Thoughts to

                                          Other

                                          Pe

                                          ople

                                          It's called memes.

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                                          theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #122

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