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No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

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  • M munkisquisher@lemmy.nz

    That's one of the signs of LLM output, take any idea and have it flesh it out into short article. It'll bullet point the crap out of it

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    lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    #107

    LLMs learned it by watching these idiots.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

      Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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      valkyre09@lemmy.world
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      #108

      I get the feeling you and Bill Hicks would have gotten along: https://youtu.be/9h9wStdPkQY

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      • john_tJ john_t

        There's no algorithm to be played in the fediverse. The reward is too low for all the work of making a post visible, and it won't carry to the next post, essentially starting all over again.

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        sl00k@programming.dev
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        #109

        The Hot ordering is itself an algorithm.

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        • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

          Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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          hupf@feddit.org
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          https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_Ship_B

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          • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

            People downvote me when I say it. That's all cope. We're not wrong; if and when this goes mainstream, it'll attract the same bad actors just as heavily.

            Of course, there are surely already a few here testing the waters.

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            sl00k@programming.dev
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            #111

            I agree the Fediverse is not in a good spot for something like this.

            I actually think this is where the identity system of atproto will be more impactful here as it allows a better verification system. I've been thinking lately you should be able to use hardware attestation + biometric attestation on apps to filter these emulated users out.

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            • saarthS saarth

              Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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              Dr. Moose
              wrote last edited by
              #112

              US is full of companies that publicly claim to manipulate reddit threads as PR protection. They all do it exactly like you'd expect - people with dozens of phones going through threads writing shit. Even if users are banned and their phone fingerprinted they just dump the phones for new ones.

              Reddit knows could actually sue them and very likely to win but that would be a lot of attention at them.

              The best part of this is - if commercial PR companies can afford to run this then what China, Russia and such are doing must have absolutely bonkers. There's very little internet actually left organic.

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              • addie@feddit.ukA addie@feddit.uk

                If you've any suggestion on how to implement that, then it's a million-dollar idea.

                The "I'm a human" test that only takes a few seconds and then lets you do what you like for an hour was always vulnerable to 'auth farms'. Pay some poor bastards in the third world a pittance to pass the test a thousand times an hour, let the bots run wild. And the bots have gained the ability to pass the tests themselves, at least by boiling the oceans in some datacentre while the VC money holds out.

                Finding the people running the bots, fitting them with some very heavy boots and then seeing if they can swim in the deep ocean is probably needlessly cruel, but I'd be up for tarring and feathering a few. Once the videos got out, the rest might think harder about their life choices...

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                sl00k@programming.dev
                wrote last edited by
                #113

                Most of this work is done via emulators if you have a hardware attestation process built in, it will stop most of it. Obviously you still have a problem with phone farms but those are much more expensive than emulators and there's a physical capacity to them.

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                • O Oascany

                  This is so funny because I'm Indian and I've never come across a Hindi sub on Reddit.

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                  mulligrubs@lemmy.world
                  wrote last edited by
                  #114

                  I'm not even exaggerating, EVERY DAY in my feed repeatedly, not even in English, absolutely zero discernible reason. No Chinese. No Brazilian. No German. It's not even random.

                  Also, Jesus ads. "He gets us". Why Jesus ads in English AND Hindi Indian subs? It's almost spiteful

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                  • saarthS saarth

                    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                    anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
                    wrote last edited by
                    #115

                    the internet needs to be burnt to the ground and built back up for humans to humans.
                    I hate this timeline were are living in

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                    • T theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world

                      The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                      notbadandyou@ttrpg.network
                      wrote last edited by
                      #116

                      Decent chance that post was written by AI as well. Or it was a marketing copywriter. Either way it wasn't written by a normal human.

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                      • saarthS saarth

                        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                        plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca
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                        #117

                        "These days"? Reddit has been hot garbage since before the 3rd party API bullshit

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                        • saarthS saarth

                          Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                          auth@lemmy.world
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                          #118

                          Its scum behavior but its smart. If you can get your product into a reddit thread that gives a ton of free high quality advertising. Its why the site turned to site so fast once normal people found out about it. Suddenly you had products being shilled in every community and threads created solely for the purpose of posting a reply that said to buy a product. AI is just a cherry ontop of the already souless reddit behaviour and quite frankly its what they deserve.

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                          • T theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world

                            The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                            underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
                            wrote last edited by
                            #119

                            Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

                            A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

                            Normal Users:

                            • Post replies

                            • Up and Downvote

                            • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

                            And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

                            Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

                            But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

                            So we came up with

                            Something that's

                            Even better than

                            What we used

                            To post like

                            Before

                            We first started using

                            This online

                            digital service

                            For posting our

                            Thoughts to

                            Other

                            Pe

                            ople

                            It's called memes.

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                            • C cosmonauticus@lemmy.world

                              Nahhhh. When ads are clever or funny its fine. This lower effort bullshit need to die

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                              banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
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                              #120

                              Nah. manipulating people into buying things they don't need is a trash career. It's not a productive or necessary job. It hurts more than it can ever help.

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                              • saarthS saarth

                                Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                avicenna@programming.dev
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                                #121

                                here is to hoping that lemmy never grows

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                                • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                                  Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

                                  A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

                                  Normal Users:

                                  • Post replies

                                  • Up and Downvote

                                  • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

                                  And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

                                  Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

                                  But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

                                  So we came up with

                                  Something that's

                                  Even better than

                                  What we used

                                  To post like

                                  Before

                                  We first started using

                                  This online

                                  digital service

                                  For posting our

                                  Thoughts to

                                  Other

                                  Pe

                                  ople

                                  It's called memes.

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                                  theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #122

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                                  • lechekaflanL lechekaflan

                                    More than a decade and a half later and pretentious SEO fanatics still fucking make my eyes roll.

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                                    buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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                                    #123

                                    They make me think of kids who hide food they don't want to eat in stupid places and get all surprised when they realize it makes wherever they were hiding it into a biohazard.

                                    Or anyone who thinks they are getting a free benefit from using something a certain way and completely ignoring that each use ruins it a bit more.

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                                    • W WolfmanEightySix

                                      This comment made me realise that the internet could have been born, lived, and died, within my lifetime.

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                                      angelevo@feddit.nl
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                                      #124

                                      Thank you for the strange compliment.

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                                      • saarthS saarth

                                        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                        drath@lemmy.world
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #125

                                        Plot twist: They did not build shit, the text is generated by AI, and whatever they do is still done by third country workers.

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                                        • S Schadrach

                                          There’s no algorithm to be played in the fediverse.

                                          There presumably is. Some metric decides visibility on the feeds. That algorithm not being based on corporate profitability doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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                                          mac@mander.xyz
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                                          #126

                                          In fact, it doesn't matter if there's no internal incentive. If it's being indexed and shows in searches it will have all the incentive needed to maximise SEO for profit.

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