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No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

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  • saarthS saarth

    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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    theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
    wrote last edited by theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
    #101

    The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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    • A allzeitbereit@feddit.uk

      It'll happen in the Fediverse too.

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      brendansimms@lemmy.world
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      #102

      Not if you use NORD VPN ™, fellow human. NORD VPN ™ guarantees filtering of astroturfing comments made by LLMs! Thats right - NORD VPN ™ does the following:

      • Filters out comments made by LLMs
      • Does not sell your data
      • Filters out comments made by LLMs
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      • A allzeitbereit@feddit.uk

        It'll happen in the Fediverse too.

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        wrote last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml
        #103

        yeah, i havent seen anyone come up with a solution so far. nobody really seems to know when i bring it up.

        usually some implication the problem is gonna solve itself. we might be fucked. eventually.

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        • K kahnclusions@lemmy.ca

          100% written by an LLM. They always use this tone and it’s infuriating.

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          ByteOnBikes
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          #104

          People who abuse GenAI no longer can tell when the shit they post look like GenAI. They only talk to AI so it looks normal to them.

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          • saarthS saarth

            Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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            snazz@lemmy.world
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            #105

            What a self report. This guy is complicit in turning the age of information into the age of propaganda.

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            • lechekaflanL lechekaflan

              More than a decade and a half later and pretentious SEO fanatics still fucking make my eyes roll.

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              lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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              #106

              Never forget that the morally correct thing to do if you happen to meet one of these people it to punch them in the mouth.

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              • M munkisquisher@lemmy.nz

                That's one of the signs of LLM output, take any idea and have it flesh it out into short article. It'll bullet point the crap out of it

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                lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                #107

                LLMs learned it by watching these idiots.

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                • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

                  Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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                  valkyre09@lemmy.world
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                  #108

                  I get the feeling you and Bill Hicks would have gotten along: https://youtu.be/9h9wStdPkQY

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                  • john_tJ john_t

                    There's no algorithm to be played in the fediverse. The reward is too low for all the work of making a post visible, and it won't carry to the next post, essentially starting all over again.

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                    sl00k@programming.dev
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                    #109

                    The Hot ordering is itself an algorithm.

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                    • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

                      Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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                      hupf@feddit.org
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                      #110

                      https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrinchan_Ark_Fleet_Ship_B

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                      • S spacenoodle@lemmy.world

                        People downvote me when I say it. That's all cope. We're not wrong; if and when this goes mainstream, it'll attract the same bad actors just as heavily.

                        Of course, there are surely already a few here testing the waters.

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                        sl00k@programming.dev
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                        #111

                        I agree the Fediverse is not in a good spot for something like this.

                        I actually think this is where the identity system of atproto will be more impactful here as it allows a better verification system. I've been thinking lately you should be able to use hardware attestation + biometric attestation on apps to filter these emulated users out.

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                        • saarthS saarth

                          Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                          Dr. Moose
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                          #112

                          US is full of companies that publicly claim to manipulate reddit threads as PR protection. They all do it exactly like you'd expect - people with dozens of phones going through threads writing shit. Even if users are banned and their phone fingerprinted they just dump the phones for new ones.

                          Reddit knows could actually sue them and very likely to win but that would be a lot of attention at them.

                          The best part of this is - if commercial PR companies can afford to run this then what China, Russia and such are doing must have absolutely bonkers. There's very little internet actually left organic.

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                          • addie@feddit.ukA addie@feddit.uk

                            If you've any suggestion on how to implement that, then it's a million-dollar idea.

                            The "I'm a human" test that only takes a few seconds and then lets you do what you like for an hour was always vulnerable to 'auth farms'. Pay some poor bastards in the third world a pittance to pass the test a thousand times an hour, let the bots run wild. And the bots have gained the ability to pass the tests themselves, at least by boiling the oceans in some datacentre while the VC money holds out.

                            Finding the people running the bots, fitting them with some very heavy boots and then seeing if they can swim in the deep ocean is probably needlessly cruel, but I'd be up for tarring and feathering a few. Once the videos got out, the rest might think harder about their life choices...

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                            sl00k@programming.dev
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                            #113

                            Most of this work is done via emulators if you have a hardware attestation process built in, it will stop most of it. Obviously you still have a problem with phone farms but those are much more expensive than emulators and there's a physical capacity to them.

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                            • O Oascany

                              This is so funny because I'm Indian and I've never come across a Hindi sub on Reddit.

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                              mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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                              #114

                              I'm not even exaggerating, EVERY DAY in my feed repeatedly, not even in English, absolutely zero discernible reason. No Chinese. No Brazilian. No German. It's not even random.

                              Also, Jesus ads. "He gets us". Why Jesus ads in English AND Hindi Indian subs? It's almost spiteful

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                              • saarthS saarth

                                Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
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                                #115

                                the internet needs to be burnt to the ground and built back up for humans to humans.
                                I hate this timeline were are living in

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                                • T theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world

                                  The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                                  notbadandyou@ttrpg.network
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                                  #116

                                  Decent chance that post was written by AI as well. Or it was a marketing copywriter. Either way it wasn't written by a normal human.

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                                  • saarthS saarth

                                    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                    plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca
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                                    #117

                                    "These days"? Reddit has been hot garbage since before the 3rd party API bullshit

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                                    • saarthS saarth

                                      Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                      auth@lemmy.world
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                                      #118

                                      Its scum behavior but its smart. If you can get your product into a reddit thread that gives a ton of free high quality advertising. Its why the site turned to site so fast once normal people found out about it. Suddenly you had products being shilled in every community and threads created solely for the purpose of posting a reply that said to buy a product. AI is just a cherry ontop of the already souless reddit behaviour and quite frankly its what they deserve.

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                                      • T theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world

                                        The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                                        underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                                        Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

                                        A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

                                        Normal Users:

                                        • Post replies

                                        • Up and Downvote

                                        • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

                                        And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

                                        Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

                                        But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

                                        So we came up with

                                        Something that's

                                        Even better than

                                        What we used

                                        To post like

                                        Before

                                        We first started using

                                        This online

                                        digital service

                                        For posting our

                                        Thoughts to

                                        Other

                                        Pe

                                        ople

                                        It's called memes.

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                                        • C cosmonauticus@lemmy.world

                                          Nahhhh. When ads are clever or funny its fine. This lower effort bullshit need to die

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                                          banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
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                                          #120

                                          Nah. manipulating people into buying things they don't need is a trash career. It's not a productive or necessary job. It hurts more than it can ever help.

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