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No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

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  • C cosmonauticus@lemmy.world

    Nahhhh. When ads are clever or funny its fine. This lower effort bullshit need to die

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    banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
    wrote last edited by
    #120

    Nah. manipulating people into buying things they don't need is a trash career. It's not a productive or necessary job. It hurts more than it can ever help.

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    • saarthS saarth

      Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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      avicenna@programming.dev
      wrote last edited by
      #121

      here is to hoping that lemmy never grows

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      • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

        Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

        A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

        Normal Users:

        • Post replies

        • Up and Downvote

        • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

        And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

        Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

        But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

        So we came up with

        Something that's

        Even better than

        What we used

        To post like

        Before

        We first started using

        This online

        digital service

        For posting our

        Thoughts to

        Other

        Pe

        ople

        It's called memes.

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        theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
        wrote last edited by
        #122

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        • lechekaflanL lechekaflan

          More than a decade and a half later and pretentious SEO fanatics still fucking make my eyes roll.

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          buddahriffic@lemmy.world
          wrote last edited by
          #123

          They make me think of kids who hide food they don't want to eat in stupid places and get all surprised when they realize it makes wherever they were hiding it into a biohazard.

          Or anyone who thinks they are getting a free benefit from using something a certain way and completely ignoring that each use ruins it a bit more.

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          • W WolfmanEightySix

            This comment made me realise that the internet could have been born, lived, and died, within my lifetime.

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            angelevo@feddit.nl
            wrote last edited by
            #124

            Thank you for the strange compliment.

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            • saarthS saarth

              Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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              drath@lemmy.world
              wrote last edited by
              #125

              Plot twist: They did not build shit, the text is generated by AI, and whatever they do is still done by third country workers.

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              • S Schadrach

                There’s no algorithm to be played in the fediverse.

                There presumably is. Some metric decides visibility on the feeds. That algorithm not being based on corporate profitability doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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                mac@mander.xyz
                wrote last edited by
                #126

                In fact, it doesn't matter if there's no internal incentive. If it's being indexed and shows in searches it will have all the incentive needed to maximise SEO for profit.

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                • saarthS saarth

                  Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                  xerxos@lemmy.ml
                  wrote last edited by
                  #127

                  Oh, this is great.

                  Users noticed that Google had too much bad results because of SEO and spam flooded search results.

                  Users added "reddit" to their search terms, so they get results from reddit, where spam and astroturfing were... there but manageable.

                  Now the SEO people and advertisers target reddit with AI tools, until it is so enshitificated that we have to find something else (rinse and repeat)


                  "No, don't leave, we just finished saturating the space with ads!"

                  "Why do you think we leave?"

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                  • saarthS saarth

                    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                    inferno@lemmy.ml
                    wrote last edited by
                    #128

                    Reddit is the new Facebook. Kids don't think it's cool so they avoid it. Got this first hand. It's got a big userbase so it'll take a while to topple, but they probably already know this and will squeeze everything out of it to the last drop.

                    It used to be a place I could turn to to get some real reviews, in sofar that it ruined google, and now I can't trust any of Reddit's content anymore because of things like the OP.

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                    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU underpantsweevil@lemmy.world

                      Lemmy just BLEW AWAY the LinkedIn Writing Style.

                      A few simple witty posts have utterly upended how we communicate on the internet.

                      Normal Users:

                      • Post replies

                      • Up and Downvote

                      • Embarassingly minimizing the display when your boss approaches the desk.

                      And maybe that works for normal online interactions.

                      Sure, it's fine if you're an entry level Lemmy user

                      But you'll never change the culture of the internet.

                      So we came up with

                      Something that's

                      Even better than

                      What we used

                      To post like

                      Before

                      We first started using

                      This online

                      digital service

                      For posting our

                      Thoughts to

                      Other

                      Pe

                      ople

                      It's called memes.

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                      fein@lemmy.world
                      wrote last edited by
                      #129

                      memory lane man

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                      • saarthS saarth

                        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                        theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
                        wrote last edited by theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
                        #130

                        Reddit right now is banning any criticism of ICE. Reddit covered up for Ghislaine's account (maxwellhill), even though they've attended very public events with her as CEO Ellen Pao revealed, and they have narcissistic megalomaniac psychopath Jibberish (deliberately mistyping) who has trained decades on how to be the best psychopath they can be on social manipulation MMOs also heading and manipulating their "conservative" subreddit, who subscribing to also seems to be a flag within the system to begin showing you subs engineered to manipulate you with their messaging. Oh, and all the other non-conspiracy theory stuff, which there is plenty of.

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                        • saarthS saarth

                          Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                          lechekaflan
                          wrote last edited by
                          #131

                          In any case, fuck spez.

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                          • B banditbananas@retrolemmy.com

                            Nah. manipulating people into buying things they don't need is a trash career. It's not a productive or necessary job. It hurts more than it can ever help.

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                            cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
                            wrote last edited by
                            #132

                            MOST jobs aren't productive or necessary. Just depends on how its used. Gotta have some nuance

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                            • saarthS saarth

                              Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                              zink@programming.dev
                              wrote last edited by
                              #133

                              Gross.

                              I continue to have my own little cognitive dissonance about the Fediverse:

                              The world needs more FOSS and information needs to flow in a decentralized, democratic kind of way.

                              Howeverrrrr.... Lemmy is awesome for we few that it clicks with. For the good of the users and especially the volunteer admins who run our instances, I am glad Lemmy is not the big glowing target that reddit is.

                              Maybe we just hang out and keep the lights on no matter whether it's for occasional lost Linux users or for when mainstream folks decide to ditch oligarch-tech en masse.

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                              • Z zink@programming.dev

                                Gross.

                                I continue to have my own little cognitive dissonance about the Fediverse:

                                The world needs more FOSS and information needs to flow in a decentralized, democratic kind of way.

                                Howeverrrrr.... Lemmy is awesome for we few that it clicks with. For the good of the users and especially the volunteer admins who run our instances, I am glad Lemmy is not the big glowing target that reddit is.

                                Maybe we just hang out and keep the lights on no matter whether it's for occasional lost Linux users or for when mainstream folks decide to ditch oligarch-tech en masse.

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                                poojabber@lemmy.world
                                wrote last edited by
                                #134

                                Lemmy has the feel to me that reddit did back in the day. I can only imagine as lemmy gets more popular and becomes big enough for big tech to take notice, that it will become consumed by the same garbage reddit has. Lemmy just isnt big enough yet for them to try and consume.

                                So for now Lemmy is great, but its only a matter of time before the turds find us here too.

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                                • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                                  You mention your product in the reply and hope that some poor sap doesn’t realize it’s astroturfing and thinks they’re finding a really glowing honest review from a totally organic real person who recommended a thing they found that actually works

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                                  chunes@lemmy.world
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #135

                                  you should see subreddits devoted to various incurable medical problems. the ones that don't clamp down on supplements are horrific and I know for a fact lots of innocent people get caught up in it

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                                  • J jack_burton@lemmy.ca

                                    So it's just a grift. Makes sense, they always use grift-style buzzwords. I was about to comment on the ridiculousness of building a business solely on manipulation, but then I thought about it a bit more haha. Thanks for the explanation.

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                                    chunes@lemmy.world
                                    wrote last edited by chunes@lemmy.world
                                    #136

                                    you should see subreddits devoted to various incurable medical problems. the ones that don't clamp down on supplements and snake oil are horrific and I know for a fact lots of innocent people get caught up in it

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                                    • Z zink@programming.dev

                                      Gross.

                                      I continue to have my own little cognitive dissonance about the Fediverse:

                                      The world needs more FOSS and information needs to flow in a decentralized, democratic kind of way.

                                      Howeverrrrr.... Lemmy is awesome for we few that it clicks with. For the good of the users and especially the volunteer admins who run our instances, I am glad Lemmy is not the big glowing target that reddit is.

                                      Maybe we just hang out and keep the lights on no matter whether it's for occasional lost Linux users or for when mainstream folks decide to ditch oligarch-tech en masse.

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                                      bagsy@lemmy.world
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #137

                                      This sounds bad, but once the teens and grandparents find lemmy, then its game over. It happened to facebook and it happened to reddit. The masses cause a sort of averaging out of content.

                                      How do we keep the fediverse niche?

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                                      • saarthS saarth

                                        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                        zamboni_driver@lemmy.ca
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #138

                                        This person is late to the game. Reddit has been like this for years.

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                                        • B bagsy@lemmy.world

                                          This sounds bad, but once the teens and grandparents find lemmy, then its game over. It happened to facebook and it happened to reddit. The masses cause a sort of averaging out of content.

                                          How do we keep the fediverse niche?

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                                          0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #139

                                          How do we keep the fediverse niche?

                                          Selective federation with servers that only give accounts to humans?

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