No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

[inferno@lemmy.ml]

Reddit is the new Facebook. Kids don't think it's cool so they avoid it. Got this first hand. It's got a big userbase so it'll take a while to topple, but they probably already know this and will squeeze everything out of it to the last drop.

It used to be a place I could turn to to get some real reviews, in sofar that it ruined google, and now I can't trust any of Reddit's content anymore because of things like the OP.

[fein@lemmy.world]

memory lane man

[theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca]

Reddit right now is banning any criticism of ICE. Reddit covered up for Ghislaine's account (maxwellhill), even though they've attended very public events with her as CEO Ellen Pao revealed, and they have narcissistic megalomaniac psychopath Jibberish (deliberately mistyping) who has trained decades on how to be the best psychopath they can be on social manipulation MMOs also heading and manipulating their "conservative" subreddit, who subscribing to also seems to be a flag within the system to begin showing you subs engineered to manipulate you with their messaging. Oh, and all the other non-conspiracy theory stuff, which there is plenty of.

[lechekaflan@lemmy.world]

In any case, fuck spez.

[cosmonauticus@lemmy.world]

MOST jobs aren't productive or necessary. Just depends on how its used. Gotta have some nuance

[zink@programming.dev]

Gross.

I continue to have my own little cognitive dissonance about the Fediverse:

The world needs more FOSS and information needs to flow in a decentralized, democratic kind of way.

Howeverrrrr.... Lemmy is awesome for we few that it clicks with. For the good of the users and especially the volunteer admins who run our instances, I am glad Lemmy is not the big glowing target that reddit is.

Maybe we just hang out and keep the lights on no matter whether it's for occasional lost Linux users or for when mainstream folks decide to ditch oligarch-tech en masse.

[poojabber@lemmy.world]

Lemmy has the feel to me that reddit did back in the day. I can only imagine as lemmy gets more popular and becomes big enough for big tech to take notice, that it will become consumed by the same garbage reddit has. Lemmy just isnt big enough yet for them to try and consume.

So for now Lemmy is great, but its only a matter of time before the turds find us here too.

[chunes@lemmy.world]

you should see subreddits devoted to various incurable medical problems. the ones that don't clamp down on supplements are horrific and I know for a fact lots of innocent people get caught up in it

[chunes@lemmy.world]

you should see subreddits devoted to various incurable medical problems. the ones that don't clamp down on supplements and snake oil are horrific and I know for a fact lots of innocent people get caught up in it

[bagsy@lemmy.world]

This sounds bad, but once the teens and grandparents find lemmy, then its game over. It happened to facebook and it happened to reddit. The masses cause a sort of averaging out of content.

How do we keep the fediverse niche?

[zamboni_driver@lemmy.ca]

This person is late to the game. Reddit has been like this for years.

[0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

How do we keep the fediverse niche?

Selective federation with servers that only give accounts to humans?

[spicedealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

The decentralized model gives it a good head start against financial interest and populist mass adoption.

[fedizen@lemmy.world]

The federation will make lemmy a slippery target because as threads has shown us you can add a compromised server and people will block the instance or if it gets annoying enough admins will defederate it.

[balsoft@lemmy.ml]

The benefit of the fediverse is that it's trivially "forkable". If lemmy.world and other big instances get overwhelmed with bullshit, I fully expect that many smaller chill/focused instances will defederate and keep on doing their own things, chatting only with each other - no need to jump any ships. Perhaps there would also be some in-between, instances which are federated with both worlds, and where you can get a combination of tons of niche information/entertainment but with bots, and a small amount of genuine human interaction. I hope if that ever happens, lemmy-the-software gets sorting algorithms to deal with these situations.

[auster@thebrainbin.org]

In line of SEO, it makes me think, with how the fediverse works, it could end up being a search engine of its own. Including, I may add, for external contents as tracking bots are made. Quite an interesting realization.

[archon_warslut@lemmy.world]

reddit banned me, so i upvoted this post

[criss_cross@lemmy.world]

I mean astroturfing reddit was never new. It's why /r/HailCorporate existed and tools tried to disenfranchise that sub so much.

It's just 10 times worse because of the phenomenon you described. It also doesn't help that reddit and walled garden social media killed traditional forums so you don't have those to index anymore either. You either have SEO garbage sites trying to bombard you with ads and referral links, links to a walled garden you can't actually see, or reddit posts.

It's a cycle that's bound to repeat, especially with AI. Because that's how MBAs and snake oil salesmen get money, by ruining communal spaces.

[mickus@sh.itjust.works]

If AI floods every single comment section, to the point the humaness of social media has been completely removed (which it is reaching that imo), how would it effect our consumption of it?

Looking at instagram, my feed is mostly meaningless garbage (which might be my fault to an extent), but what it has meant I simply don't find any reason to go onto it at all. Would this happen on mass if/when AI is so prevalent (lets say a 9:1 bot commenter to human commenter ratio), that we simply have no interest in it anymore?

[mapto@feddit.bg]

Yet you didn't respond to the point that makes the difference:

reddit is actively encouraging this kind behaviour to inflate their user statistics and there is no incentive to tolerate this kind of spam for a fediverse server admin