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  • G F/15/Cali@threads.net

    People have been doing it for years. At one point, it amounted to a sizable percentage of Reddit’s posts and comments. Just seo spam to their own profile, a few subreddits, and sleep your 600+ accounts for 3 days.

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    reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world
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    #29

    I knew most of it was spam. I just figured it was propaganda from various governments

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    • saarthS saarth

      Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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      SoftQuartz
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      Compared to the organic content here it is unbearable on reddit now.

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      • saarthS saarth

        Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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        hootinnhollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        #31

        Yikes

        I haven’t been in there since the api exodus. I imagine it’s terrible

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        • 9 9point6@lemmy.world

          Most people [...] write [...] comments [...] and hope AI picks them up

          Really quite sad if there's even one person out there doing that.

          This is also as much of a grift as any SEO that claims to have cracked the code of getting to the top of results. Even if they have figured something reproducible, it will get fixed. If someone can manipulate a search engine to provide results different to what it would otherwise do, that's a bug they will fix

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          chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #32

          Will they though, search engine results lately seem very much like a decisive victory for the SEO slop

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          • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comC chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            Will they though, search engine results lately seem very much like a decisive victory for the SEO slop

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            temperche@discuss.tchncs.de
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            #33

            only if u use google. Try Qwant.

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            • 9 9point6@lemmy.world

              Most people [...] write [...] comments [...] and hope AI picks them up

              Really quite sad if there's even one person out there doing that.

              This is also as much of a grift as any SEO that claims to have cracked the code of getting to the top of results. Even if they have figured something reproducible, it will get fixed. If someone can manipulate a search engine to provide results different to what it would otherwise do, that's a bug they will fix

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              Sergio
              wrote last edited by
              #34

              If someone can manipulate a search engine to provide results different to what it would otherwise do, that’s a bug they will fix

              But there are more people manipulating the results, than people fixing the bugs.

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              • W WolfmanEightySix

                This comment made me realise that the internet could have been born, lived, and died, within my lifetime.

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                OpenStars
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                #35

                Like phone calls, and texting, bad actors ruin everything that they touch.

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                • B birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                  And when that happens, we move instances.

                  I wonder if we could make only the sign-up page of Lemmy and Piefed public to the internet, and the rest only accessible through login and verification of being actually bloody human? Could use anti-scraping measures...

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                  Drusas
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                  #36

                  That's how it's been on my mbin instance (fedia.io) for a while now.

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                  • saarthS saarth

                    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                    olap@lemmy.world
                    wrote last edited by
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                    The counter to this is a web of trust. You break the trust you are out of the web, and nodes connected you too are also out (for a period). And you need two to vouch for you

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                    • S Sergio

                      If someone can manipulate a search engine to provide results different to what it would otherwise do, that’s a bug they will fix

                      But there are more people manipulating the results, than people fixing the bugs.

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                      surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                      #38

                      But not in novel ways. Lots of exploiters using the same bug. Fix it once and they're all fixed.

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                      • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                        Like phone calls, and texting, bad actors ruin everything that they touch.

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                        tomiant
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                        #39

                        Good actors too, it's the nature of capitalism.

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                          azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          #40

                          DDG is bing and definitely has the same problems.

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                          • saarthS saarth

                            Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                            sparkles
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                            I don’t post there anymore but the only time it felt like I was talking to real people was on my small state sub. That’s the only reason I even lurk. Since I’m banned from Facebook it’s the only place to get the tea.

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                            • B birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                              And when that happens, we move instances.

                              I wonder if we could make only the sign-up page of Lemmy and Piefed public to the internet, and the rest only accessible through login and verification of being actually bloody human? Could use anti-scraping measures...

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                              Nutomic
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                              Lemmy also has an admin setting like that. Additionally there will be private, federated communities available in version 1.0.

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                              • sparklesS sparkles

                                I don’t post there anymore but the only time it felt like I was talking to real people was on my small state sub. That’s the only reason I even lurk. Since I’m banned from Facebook it’s the only place to get the tea.

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                                jaybone@lemmy.zip
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                                lol how did you get banned from Facebook? I haven’t posted there in years so I don’t know what’s going on there. Are they handing out bans like Reddit now?

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                                • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                                  Like phone calls, and texting, bad actors ruin everything that they touch.

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                                  jaybone@lemmy.zip
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                                  #44

                                  Even snail mail.

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                                  • saarthS saarth

                                    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                    jack_burton@lemmy.ca
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                                    I don't understand the point of this. Like, you figure out how to increase traffic on certain posts/comments and there's somehow a push for this? Do they get money somehow? These people always use terminology and ceo buzzwords as if it's some big business level that people are aspiring to reach, but what's the actual point? Why would I care if my post/comment exploded? Was I just using Reddit wrong?

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                                    • J jack_burton@lemmy.ca

                                      I don't understand the point of this. Like, you figure out how to increase traffic on certain posts/comments and there's somehow a push for this? Do they get money somehow? These people always use terminology and ceo buzzwords as if it's some big business level that people are aspiring to reach, but what's the actual point? Why would I care if my post/comment exploded? Was I just using Reddit wrong?

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                                      4am@lemmy.zip
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                                      You mention your product in the reply and hope that some poor sap doesn’t realize it’s astroturfing and thinks they’re finding a really glowing honest review from a totally organic real person who recommended a thing they found that actually works

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                                      • B birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                        And when that happens, we move instances.

                                        I wonder if we could make only the sign-up page of Lemmy and Piefed public to the internet, and the rest only accessible through login and verification of being actually bloody human? Could use anti-scraping measures...

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                                        deafboy@lemmy.world
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                                        the rest only accessible through login and verification

                                        Yes. If you can't fight the death of the www, embrace it! Help making it happen!

                                        /s

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                                        • deafboy@lemmy.worldD deafboy@lemmy.world

                                          the rest only accessible through login and verification

                                          Yes. If you can't fight the death of the www, embrace it! Help making it happen!

                                          /s

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                                          birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                          I don't need one of those stupid ID verifications. Something else should be that instead, but what, I do not know. Whatever helps counter AI scraping and preserves anonymity.

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