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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • H huquad@lemmy.ml

    Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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    flames5123@sh.itjust.works
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    Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

    See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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    • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

      Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. That’s a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You don’t understand the code.

      Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.

      See this for proof: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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      Grail
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      Me shocked to learn that PieFed (the software I am currently using) will delete My comment if it starts with a gif (like this one does)

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      • P punkisundead [they/them]

        Maybe it can be one day but right now it’s 100% not production-grade software.

        Why should we only use "production-grade software" software on the Fediverse? Isnt the beauty that we can use all kind of software as long as it interacts decently via the relevant protocols?

        Also I am already using Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs. This does not seem to be anything that would stop, especially when I can actually read the code as its in a language I can atleast understand somewhat

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        sortekanin@feddit.dk
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        Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs

        The opinions of the devs have so far (at least as far as I know) not spread into the actual code though.

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        • W wonderrin@sh.itjust.works

          Woah, I haven't heard about this. Are those temp bans on specific subreddits or a site-wide ban for not being pro-Trump?

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          Sir. Haxalot
          wrote last edited by
          #111

          It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".

          The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf

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          • Sir. HaxalotS Sir. Haxalot

            It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".

            The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf

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            wonderrin@sh.itjust.works
            wrote last edited by wonderrin@sh.itjust.works
            #112

            I'm probably applying too much logic here which Reddit admins don't seem to like, but... how can defending oneself if something happens (not even preemptively, but after the fact) be threatening violence, while Trump repeatedly saying they're gonna own Greenland one way or another is not threatening violence?

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            • B bb84@mander.xyz

              If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

              That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.

              What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

              How about this one?
              'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".

              Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.

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              die4ever@retrolemmy.com
              wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
              #113

              obviously not that "hardcoded" since piefed.zip can access these things just fine

              https://piefed.zip/c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world

              https://piefed.zip/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

              piefed.ca too https://piefed.ca/c/memes@lemmy.world

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              • G goferking (he/him)

                I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do

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                Skavau
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                #114

                And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

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                • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                  Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                  I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                  So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                  https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

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                  Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                  • the thorn character filter
                  • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                  • the "this filter" being configurable

                  My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                  • multicommunities
                  • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                  • crossposts comments consolidation
                  • communities moderation features
                  • posts and user flairs
                  • keyword filters

                  None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                  What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                  That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                  I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                  rglullis@communick.news
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                  #115

                  All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.

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                  • H huquad@lemmy.ml

                    Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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                    Deceptichum
                    wrote last edited by
                    #116

                    Way more features, actually gets updates, and awesome devs who take on feedback and make changes.

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                    • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                      Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

                      See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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                      typhoon@lemmy.ca
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                      #117

                      A bunch of tankies whining around anti-spam/bot, anti-AI and defederating from tankie instances. I see no problem here.

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                      • S Skavau

                        And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

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                        goferking (he/him)
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                        #118

                        Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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                        • G goferking (he/him)

                          Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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                          Skavau
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                          #119

                          Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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                          • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                            Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                            I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                            So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                            https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                            --

                            Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                            • the thorn character filter
                            • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                            • the "this filter" being configurable

                            My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                            • multicommunities
                            • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                            • crossposts comments consolidation
                            • communities moderation features
                            • posts and user flairs
                            • keyword filters

                            None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                            What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                            That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                            I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                            goferking (he/him)
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                            #120

                            Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.

                            None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                            I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.

                            Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.

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                            • S Skavau

                              Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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                              goferking (he/him)
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                              #121

                              Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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                              • G goferking (he/him)

                                Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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                                Skavau
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                                #122

                                Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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                                • S Skavau

                                  Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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                                  goferking (he/him)
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                                  #123

                                  No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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                                  • G goferking (he/him)

                                    No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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                                    Skavau
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                                    #124

                                    Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

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                                    • S Skavau

                                      Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

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                                      goferking (he/him)
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                                      #125

                                      Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

                                      Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

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                                      • G goferking (he/him)

                                        Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

                                        Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

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                                        Skavau
                                        wrote last edited by skavau@piefed.social
                                        #126

                                        "Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

                                        You are talking to Skavau.

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                                        • S Skavau

                                          Okay? It's still a massive surge of new users relative to older growth.

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                                          wiki_me@lemmy.ml
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                                          #127

                                          Which is not useful if those users are people who try out the platform and then abandon it, or worst bots for state actors.

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