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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • S Skavau

    No, I'm seeing hostility used from others across the wider fediverse. I don't think anything he said there was really specifically hostile at all in any thread. A complete reach.

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    goferking (he/him)
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    Hostility by simply doing code reviews and questioning odd design choices?

    Or hostility like the lemmy devs face constantly?

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    • G goferking (he/him)

      Hostility by simply doing code reviews and questioning odd design choices?

      Or hostility like the lemmy devs face constantly?

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      Skavau
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      Hostility by simply doing code reviews and questioning odd design choices?

      By spamming it everywhere every chance they can in an effort to try and drive people from Piefed, by making no effort to inquire or outreach to anyone in a neutral way as to why the code is as they (think) it is.

      But in comparison to the Lemmy admins. Sure. Do you think they take seriously, and view the opinions of those that are rude to them all across the fediverse?

      Or hostility like the lemmy devs face constantly?

      I mean he's been accused of running a CIA-style op (or compared to).

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      • S Skavau

        Hostility by simply doing code reviews and questioning odd design choices?

        By spamming it everywhere every chance they can in an effort to try and drive people from Piefed, by making no effort to inquire or outreach to anyone in a neutral way as to why the code is as they (think) it is.

        But in comparison to the Lemmy admins. Sure. Do you think they take seriously, and view the opinions of those that are rude to them all across the fediverse?

        Or hostility like the lemmy devs face constantly?

        I mean he's been accused of running a CIA-style op (or compared to).

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        goferking (he/him)
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        Weird, I was told to only assume the positives in everything. Shouldn't they be happy to have people looking and spreading the code?

        Now I see the issue its they didn't do it in pr or only ask in approved spaces (even though most are on instances rimu has blocked). How could they not want to be neutral after having it start with him completely against them.

        I mean he's been accused of running a CIA-style op (or compared to).

        I'm not sure what else they would expect when starting by explicitly banning leftists from the space they are currently in.

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        • G goferking (he/him)

          Weird, I was told to only assume the positives in everything. Shouldn't they be happy to have people looking and spreading the code?

          Now I see the issue its they didn't do it in pr or only ask in approved spaces (even though most are on instances rimu has blocked). How could they not want to be neutral after having it start with him completely against them.

          I mean he's been accused of running a CIA-style op (or compared to).

          I'm not sure what else they would expect when starting by explicitly banning leftists from the space they are currently in.

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          Skavau
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          Now I see the issue its they didn’t do it in pr or only ask in approved spaces (even though most are on instances rimu has blocked). How could they not want to be neutral after having it start with him completely against them.

          You think that Rimu would jump onto these instances that lets say are mutually ideological hostile and take notes and believe they're arguing in good faith?

          I’m not sure what else they would expect when starting by explicitly banning leftists from the space they are currently in.

          How has he done that outside of his control?

          You think every single community that bans leftists (per your definition) is necessarily run or controlled by the CIA?

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          • S Skavau

            Now I see the issue its they didn’t do it in pr or only ask in approved spaces (even though most are on instances rimu has blocked). How could they not want to be neutral after having it start with him completely against them.

            You think that Rimu would jump onto these instances that lets say are mutually ideological hostile and take notes and believe they're arguing in good faith?

            I’m not sure what else they would expect when starting by explicitly banning leftists from the space they are currently in.

            How has he done that outside of his control?

            You think every single community that bans leftists (per your definition) is necessarily run or controlled by the CIA?

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            goferking (he/him)
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            #145

            You think that Rimu would jump onto these instances that lets say are mutually ideological hostile and take notes and believe they're arguing in good faith?

            I'm saying they shouldn't be surprised when no one wants to discuss things with someone who specifically said they don't want anything to do with them. Which also goes back to the language rimu uses when questioned.

            Again are you pr for piefed cause you are way to invested in defending it, doing best to distract from the actual points and issues brought up and seemly instantly responding.

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            • G goferking (he/him)

              You think that Rimu would jump onto these instances that lets say are mutually ideological hostile and take notes and believe they're arguing in good faith?

              I'm saying they shouldn't be surprised when no one wants to discuss things with someone who specifically said they don't want anything to do with them. Which also goes back to the language rimu uses when questioned.

              Again are you pr for piefed cause you are way to invested in defending it, doing best to distract from the actual points and issues brought up and seemly instantly responding.

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              Skavau
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              I’m saying they shouldn’t be surprised when no one wants to discuss things with someone who specifically said they don’t want anything to do with them.

              Right, and the feeling is mutual. I don't think it really matters how Piefed looked, or what it does - many of those users outright oppose any competing platform on the Fediverse because they believe you should help the Lemmy devs instead of making your own. So what's the end-game here?

              Which also goes back to the language rimu uses when questioned.

              He's clearly referring to the people who express what he views as bad faith commentary and attacks on his character from those instances and communities.

              Again are you pr for piefed cause you are way to invested in defending it, doing best to distract from the actual points and issues brought up and seemly instantly responding.

              You keep replying to me. I reply back. I pretty much reply to everyone if I have something else to say so long as you keep replying to me.

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              • B bb84@mander.xyz

                I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...

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                lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                uses regex to parse HTML

                I see we are having fun these places!

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                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                  irrelevant when it can be disabled anyways

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                  lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  Defaults matter. We always complain about that when it comes to eg.: Firefox, no sense in being a hypocrite here and letting Piefed do just about.

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                  • H huquad@lemmy.ml

                    Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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                    prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
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                    #149

                    Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:

                    • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
                    • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
                    • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
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                    • B bb84@mander.xyz

                      Having features does not make it good software. It remains true that the code quality is abysmal and there ARE hardcoded blocks based on what the dev(s) dislike.

                      What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                      I hope I am not spreading any misinformation. If any of my complaints is factually incorrect, please point it out.

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                      Blaze (he/him)
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                      Hardcoded configurable blocks disabled by default.

                      Those features might not be for you, but from experience trying to get new people onboard, they help a lot. I made a detailed post about this there: https://piefed.zip/c/fedimemes/p/1012596/not-sure-where-all-of-this-come-from

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                      • S Skavau

                        Some promotional posts were made on Reddit in the right comms, although none of them specifically exploded - albeit one was made also in r/buyCanadian and it seemed to surge.

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                        tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                        cant be reddit bans, they have largely laid off the massive bans. although i have heard they upped thier methods of detecting would be ban evasion methods.

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                        • J JamieDub86

                          Reddit also upped the enshittification but i cant remember why.

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                          tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                          its also too easy to get banned. new accounts and old inactive accounts becoming suddenly active are highly likely to get banned.

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                          • Sir. HaxalotS Sir. Haxalot

                            It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".

                            The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf

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                            tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                            then the 3 day sitewide bans end often leads to a shadow ban or sitewide ban, for unkown reasons for your part. as soon as they sniff other accounts you mave or deleted you are toast.

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                            • W wonderrin@sh.itjust.works

                              I'm probably applying too much logic here which Reddit admins don't seem to like, but... how can defending oneself if something happens (not even preemptively, but after the fact) be threatening violence, while Trump repeatedly saying they're gonna own Greenland one way or another is not threatening violence?

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                              tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                              theres also other easy ways apparently to get banned too, "reporting people if the mods dont agree you can get permantly banned yourself". or your comments are too spammy or to similar to bots.

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                              • H hector@lemmy.today

                                Deal breaker for me. Although Lemmy is not all that tolerant of dissenting views either I hear.

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                                tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                just like on reddit if you are trolling, issuing propaganda, and ignoring community rules you will get banned surely anywhere else, obviously if your being offensive too.

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                                • W wiki_me@lemmy.ml

                                  Right now i don't see any movement in the amount of donations (patreon, liberapay). so i am not kinda skeptical this will end up being meaningful growth.

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                                  die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                  #156

                                  I wouldn't expect new users to donate within their first few days on the site

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                                    JamieDub86
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                                    That was the big one, but there was something else smaller last year.

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                                    • G Grail

                                      Me shocked to learn that PieFed (the software I am currently using) will delete My comment if it starts with a gif (like this one does)

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                                      Diva (she/her)
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                                      The code doesn't actually parse the markdown in the post at all, so it only censors your comment if it's a link to common gif hosters, and posted in a way that doesn't actually render the gif.

                                      It's laughable because it's both attempting to be draconian and implemented poorly

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                                      • T tollana1234567@lemmy.today

                                        just like on reddit if you are trolling, issuing propaganda, and ignoring community rules you will get banned surely anywhere else, obviously if your being offensive too.

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                                        hector@lemmy.today
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                                        In my experience reddit administration moderates dishonestly, violating posts not against the rules because of subjects like Israel,. Moderators there are more than you can shake a stick at they run the gamut.

                                        But the administration is quite dishonest, and will become more and more so.

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                                        • T tollana1234567@lemmy.today

                                          just like on reddit if you are trolling, issuing propaganda, and ignoring community rules you will get banned surely anywhere else, obviously if your being offensive too.

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                                          BeeegScaaawyCripple
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                                          don't forget, being sexually harassed by a mod and then warning people about the mod will get you banned too

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