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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

    Is there any particular reason for this?

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    not_rick@lemmy.world
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    #15

    One of my friends finally joined for two reasons. First he was disgusted by the Reddit ICE ads, and second he realized his Reddit feed was half shit he doesn’t subscribe to.

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    • S Skavau

      Some promotional posts were made on Reddit in the right comms, although none of them specifically exploded - albeit one was made also in r/buyCanadian and it seemed to surge.

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      JamieDub86
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      #16

      Reddit also upped the enshittification but i cant remember why.

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      • S Skavau

        Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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        biltong
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        #17

        Welcome new users!!

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        • not_rick@lemmy.worldN not_rick@lemmy.world

          One of my friends finally joined for two reasons. First he was disgusted by the Reddit ICE ads, and second he realized his Reddit feed was half shit he doesn’t subscribe to.

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          cinoreus@lemmy.world
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          #18

          That's actually also the reason I am here, lol. Reddit feed. has gone down the drain, although I don't get Ice ads. I ain't American.

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          • S sloelk

            thx,
            this fediverse seems for me more usable than others like mastodon a half if a year ago.

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            cinoreus@lemmy.world
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            #19

            It is lol. Reddit is a forum disguised as social media, something which does not require complicated recommendation systems to feel complete. Hence lemmy/piefed feel more usable in my opinion.

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            • S sloelk

              thx,
              this fediverse seems for me more usable than others like mastodon a half if a year ago.

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              big_slap@lemmy.world
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              #20

              the great part about all this is you still being able to interact with people on mastodon. killer feature

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              • S Skavau

                Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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                bb84@mander.xyz
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                #21

                I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...

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                • B bb84@mander.xyz

                  I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...

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                  Skavau
                  wrote last edited by
                  #22

                  If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

                  And most people are not coders. What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

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                  • B biltong

                    Welcome new users!!

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                    squirrel
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                    #23

                    Greetings to South Africa

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                    • 3 3jane

                      Here from Reddit.

                      It's about time to move over.

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                      zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #24

                      Welcome to the Threadiverse! 🎉

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                      • S Skavau

                        If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

                        And most people are not coders. What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

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                        bb84@mander.xyz
                        wrote last edited by bb84@mander.xyz
                        #25

                        If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

                        That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.

                        What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

                        How about this one?
                        'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".

                        Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.

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                        • B bb84@mander.xyz

                          If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

                          That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.

                          What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

                          How about this one?
                          'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".

                          Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.

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                          Skavau
                          wrote last edited by skavau@piefed.social
                          #26

                          What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.

                          That is from an auto-federation system for instances to bulk add new comms across instances. Any community can still be manually added. And I think most of those may have been removed now a few weeks ago. I can literally access enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world from piefed.social and all those other terms.

                          All new admins need to do to change things is to untick boxes.

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                          • B bb84@mander.xyz

                            If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

                            That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.

                            What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

                            How about this one?
                            'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".

                            Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.

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                            fujiwood@lemmy.world
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                            #27

                            Can you show me Reddits code?

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                            • fujiwood@lemmy.worldF fujiwood@lemmy.world

                              Can you show me Reddits code?

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                              bb84@mander.xyz
                              wrote last edited by
                              #28

                              The version from 10 years ago, yeah. It's here https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit.

                              There's a modern and production-ready open source alternative. It's called Lemmy. You can find the source here https://github.com/lemmynet/lemmy

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                              • S Skavau

                                What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.

                                That is from an auto-federation system for instances to bulk add new comms across instances. Any community can still be manually added. And I think most of those may have been removed now a few weeks ago. I can literally access enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world from piefed.social and all those other terms.

                                All new admins need to do to change things is to untick boxes.

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                                bb84@mander.xyz
                                wrote last edited by bb84@mander.xyz
                                #29

                                What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.

                                Fox News would seem like a perfectly fine source of news if you get all your news from Fox News, wouldn't you agree?

                                Any community can still be manually added.

                                And you can still manually get any news you want from other channels, Fox News just won't show them.

                                (I am not saying PieFed is as bad as Fox News, just trying to make an analogy to show that something that "seems to work fine" can be pretty bad for the users nonetheless)

                                BTW, !enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world (with the exclamation mark up front) to correctly refer to communities. Without the ! that's an email address.

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                                • B big_slap@lemmy.world

                                  the great part about all this is you still being able to interact with people on mastodon. killer feature

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                                  sloelk
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                                  #30

                                  sounds great, but how do I interact with them? can I choose another server to login from here?

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                                  • C cinoreus@lemmy.world

                                    It is lol. Reddit is a forum disguised as social media, something which does not require complicated recommendation systems to feel complete. Hence lemmy/piefed feel more usable in my opinion.

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                                    sloelk
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                                    #31

                                    you right. reddit is just a good, easy to use forum, but this piefed here, too. That is what I like about it.

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                                    • S sloelk

                                      sounds great, but how do I interact with them? can I choose another server to login from here?

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                                      VibeSurgeon
                                      wrote last edited by vibesurgeon@piefed.social
                                      #32

                                      You can tag a mastodon user in a Lemmy/Piefed-post.

                                      The caveat being that their server has to be connected to your server.

                                      You can't choose another server to log in. Think about it as email - if you are using Gmail, you can't log in to your email using Hotmail. You can write emails to users with Hotmail, but the login only works for your own email provider.

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                                      • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                        What are they in for? The site seems to work fine from a user perspective.

                                        Fox News would seem like a perfectly fine source of news if you get all your news from Fox News, wouldn't you agree?

                                        Any community can still be manually added.

                                        And you can still manually get any news you want from other channels, Fox News just won't show them.

                                        (I am not saying PieFed is as bad as Fox News, just trying to make an analogy to show that something that "seems to work fine" can be pretty bad for the users nonetheless)

                                        BTW, !enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world (with the exclamation mark up front) to correctly refer to communities. Without the ! that's an email address.

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                                        Skavau
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #33

                                        I don't get this comparison. You are scrutinising the code here as if people coming here without knowledge of how awful it apparently is will apparently be in for a rough ride. That the code excludes communities with certain keywords from being automatically added by the mass federation tool used only by instance owners (many of which have been removed now - as much of it was a copy and paste job from communities designated to shed content after 6 months) doesn't actually impact the user experience just using the site.

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                                        • S Skavau

                                          I don't get this comparison. You are scrutinising the code here as if people coming here without knowledge of how awful it apparently is will apparently be in for a rough ride. That the code excludes communities with certain keywords from being automatically added by the mass federation tool used only by instance owners (many of which have been removed now - as much of it was a copy and paste job from communities designated to shed content after 6 months) doesn't actually impact the user experience just using the site.

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                                          bb84@mander.xyz
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                                          #34

                                          To me, the sloppy codebase means I wouldn't want to selfhost it. And the presence of hardcoded filtering of things the devs dislike (even if it can be manually worked around) is for me a very good indicator that more shenanigans will come along the line.

                                          If you have no problems with what I mentioned then I don't think we have much in common ground to argue on. You can enjoy PieFed and I will continue to enjoy Lemmy.

                                          I just want people to be informed about these things that I find highly problematic before they decide to use or selfhost PieFed.

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