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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • B bb84@mander.xyz

    I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...

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    punkisundead [they/them]
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    Maybe it can be one day but right now itโ€™s 100% not production-grade software.

    Why should we only use "production-grade software" software on the Fediverse? Isnt the beauty that we can use all kind of software as long as it interacts decently via the relevant protocols?

    Also I am already using Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs. This does not seem to be anything that would stop, especially when I can actually read the code as its in a language I can atleast understand somewhat

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    • RimuR Rimu

      Thank you! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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      Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
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      Happy to help, more are coming ๐Ÿ˜

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      • P punkisundead [they/them]

        Maybe it can be one day but right now itโ€™s 100% not production-grade software.

        Why should we only use "production-grade software" software on the Fediverse? Isnt the beauty that we can use all kind of software as long as it interacts decently via the relevant protocols?

        Also I am already using Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs. This does not seem to be anything that would stop, especially when I can actually read the code as its in a language I can atleast understand somewhat

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        bb84@mander.xyz
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        I just want to make sure people know what they're getting into before they decide to use PieFed. If you know about the issues and decide to use it, I totally respect that decision.

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        • S Skavau

          "Amateur speculation". I've directly replied to many people who have made false conclusions about parts of the code they looked at, mostly notably the claim that continues to persist that lemmy.ml is also defederated out of the box based on a complete misunderstanding of a specific code snippet.

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          goferking (he/him)
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          Love that the respose ignores every point just deflects again to a completely different topic

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          • H huquad@lemmy.ml

            Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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            goferking (he/him)
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            #85

            Been looking to migrate off .ml,

            Why out if curiosity?

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            • G goferking (he/him)

              Love that the respose ignores every point just deflects again to a completely different topic

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              Skavau
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              #86

              Saying some are doing amateur speculation is not the same thing as saying anyone who has issues are "amateurs".

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              • S Skavau

                Saying some are doing amateur speculation is not the same thing as saying anyone who has issues are "amateurs".

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                goferking (he/him)
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                Except that is exactly how it reads.

                ignore everyone else looking at the code because they're amateurs as we're the only professionals here

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                • S Skavau

                  Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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                  wiki_me@lemmy.ml
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                  #88

                  Right now i don't see any movement in the amount of donations (patreon, liberapay). so i am not kinda skeptical this will end up being meaningful growth.

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                  • J JamieDub86

                    Reddit also upped the enshittification but i cant remember why.

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                    Sir. Haxalot
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                    I saw it in a post about people getting temp bans for simply stating that EU allies would be right to defend Greenland in case of military action. Might just have been one of several grievances with Reddit at the moment though

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                    • W wiki_me@lemmy.ml

                      Right now i don't see any movement in the amount of donations (patreon, liberapay). so i am not kinda skeptical this will end up being meaningful growth.

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                      Skavau
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                      #90

                      Okay? It's still a massive surge of new users relative to older growth.

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                      • G goferking (he/him)

                        Except that is exactly how it reads.

                        ignore everyone else looking at the code because they're amateurs as we're the only professionals here

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                        Skavau
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                        That's simply not how I read it at all. He's referring to people taking excerpts from the code and running away with long conclusions and motives based in some cases on presuppositions and assuming bad intent.

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                        • S Skavau

                          That's simply not how I read it at all. He's referring to people taking excerpts from the code and running away with long conclusions and motives based in some cases on presuppositions and assuming bad intent.

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                          goferking (he/him)
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                          It reads as being upset anyone would dare read it. Especially with replying to the person pointing it out they wouldn't review anything they thought was intentional coded in a particular way.

                          Note this is completely separate from by stance after reading some of the code and stance of the level of it.

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                          • G goferking (he/him)

                            It reads as being upset anyone would dare read it. Especially with replying to the person pointing it out they wouldn't review anything they thought was intentional coded in a particular way.

                            Note this is completely separate from by stance after reading some of the code and stance of the level of it.

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                            Skavau
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                            I simply do not share this interpretation of his comments at all.

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                            • G goferking (he/him)

                              https://lemmy.world/post/42299745

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                              Blaze (he/him)
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                              https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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                              • J jaybone@lemmy.zip

                                That was an interesting read.

                                Seems like piefed should fix a lot of that. For some of it, at least make it configurable and not hard coded. But that blocked user stuff seems like a real problem.

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                                Blaze (he/him)
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                                https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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                                • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                  I wonder, would these users still use PieFed if they have seen its codebase? Maybe it can be one day but right now it's 100% not production-grade software. Nonsensical hardcoded bans and blocks everywhere. >1000 lines of Python in a single file. Uses regex to parse HTML. The list goes on...

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                                  Blaze (he/him)
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                                  https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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                                  • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                    So there are two purposes for this "bad list"

                                    • for filtering which communities to federate with in the beginning
                                    • to calculate user reputation score

                                    correct?

                                    The federation filtering is blocking IMO. It affects what comms users of the instance can find (via search).

                                    Anyway maybe in Your PR You should make a separately configurable list for each purpose. I don't see a reason why it should be the same list.

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                                    Grail
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                                    No, just one purpose, the second one.

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                                    • S Skavau

                                      I simply do not share this interpretation of his comments at all.

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                                      goferking (he/him)
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                                      I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do

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                                      • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                        https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by

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                                        goferking (he/him)
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                                        As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.

                                        I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed

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                                        • J jaybone@lemmy.zip

                                          Yeah Iโ€™m reading that in other replies. Still you would put this in configs, for which you could have templates that come with certain defaults populated, rather than hard coding like this.

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                                          Rimu
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                                          I'm doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I'm trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I'm trying to do they'll join in and fill in the details.

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