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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • B bb84@mander.xyz

    Piefed.co.za is less than a day old and likely has done no federation at all yet.

    That cannot be true. I can see a bunch of communities federated on that website. For example, search for 'news':
    https://piefed.co.za/communities?search=news&language_id=0

    In it, he excluded federation from communities with certain keywords that you have already bought up.

    Okay. I call that a hardcoded block (that can be manually worked around).

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    Skavau
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    Does he have all minor communities on there too?

    Yes, but again - it has been adjusted to pretty much just refer to slurs. I actually spoke to him about this weeks ago.

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    • irelephant [he/him]I irelephant [he/him]

      Is this new users or users switching from Lemmy ?

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      Skavau
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      Reddit adverts, so many new users

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      • B bb84@mander.xyz

        Just to confirm, did You find the 'piracy' comm in the search menu (like I was trying to)? Or did You have to manually type in the URL and subscribe first for it to federate?

        If You found it in the search menu, then my understanding of the code must be wrong. In that case would You please explain.

        PS: The musk community is against musk. Apologies about not using Your pronouns earlier.

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        Skavau
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        #58

        The search menu on a piefed instance isn't going to find and federate new communities. It has never worked like that.

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        • G Grail

          I used the federate remote communities page on the web UI, but I could also have typed the ! notation into a comment. I didn't try using the search to find it, but I don't think it would have worked. When I used the federation machine two weeks ago, I only grabbed communities over a certain size on certain instances. MULTIVERSE has to be told to look for smaller communities.

          Still, communities like femcelmemes and dankchristianmemes and lemmyshitpost (shit is also on the list) were picked up by the community federation machine with no tinkering.

          So here's what the code does. That list you found, of the seven_things_plus, it's Rimu's idea of "low effort communities". As an admin, when I click on a user, I can see their "reputation", which shows if they've been getting lots of downvotes or lots of upvotes. And I also have a checkbox that says something like "ignore reputation from low effort communities". It's designed to prevent karma farming. Rimu designed it so if a robot posts a lot of memes to 196 to farm karma and then starts posting ads for RAID SHADOW LEGENDS, I have the option of ignoring the meme reputation and still seeing that the bot isn't contributing anything of value. But I have the checkbox turned off because I like memes.

          This week I'm gonna try making a PR to change that list's name to something more descriptive and make it configurable by admins. I've never contributed to PieFed before so we'll see if I can understand enough of the code to do it. Wish Me luck.

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          bb84@mander.xyz
          wrote last edited by bb84@mander.xyz
          #59

          Okay. It's still unclear to me why piracy was not picked up by default. It's a very big comm.

          Anyhow, good luck on the merge request! Would be great to let the admin decide what to block instead of the weirdly random selection of comms and words on the list now.

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          • B bb84@mander.xyz

            Okay. It's still unclear to me why piracy was not picked up by default. It's a very big comm.

            Anyhow, good luck on the merge request! Would be great to let the admin decide what to block instead of the weirdly random selection of comms and words on the list now.

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            Grail
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            Not block. Just karma-devalue. I'm gonna rename the variable to something like "unwanted reputation sources". If an admin doesn't want people farming rep by posting porn, they can put porn on the list. That's not blocking, it's just a data filter for admin eyes only.

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            • S Skavau

              The search menu on a piefed instance isn't going to find and federate new communities. It has never worked like that.

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              bb84@mander.xyz
              wrote last edited by
              #61

              That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming.

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              • B bb84@mander.xyz

                That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming.

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                Skavau
                wrote last edited by skavau@piefed.social
                #62

                So there's an "Add remote community" button that you use to individually federate comms. You may only see this logged in.

                Or if you manually put in the url as it would be seen from that piefed instance, it will federate that way.

                It won't populate the added communities with new content AFTER federation though until they have a local subscriber.

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                • G Grail

                  Not block. Just karma-devalue. I'm gonna rename the variable to something like "unwanted reputation sources". If an admin doesn't want people farming rep by posting porn, they can put porn on the list. That's not blocking, it's just a data filter for admin eyes only.

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                  bb84@mander.xyz
                  wrote last edited by bb84@mander.xyz
                  #63

                  So there are two purposes for this "bad list"

                  • for filtering which communities to federate with in the beginning
                  • to calculate user reputation score

                  correct?

                  The federation filtering is blocking IMO. It affects what comms users of the instance can find (via search).

                  Anyway maybe in Your PR You should make a separately configurable list for each purpose. I don't see a reason why it should be the same list.

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                  • S Skavau

                    Yes. So? Piefed.ca is receiving the bump here. Other instances have turned it off.

                    You know Rimu made a thread in !piefed_meta@piefed.social so you can ask questions or express concerns.

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                    goferking (he/him)
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                    #64

                    Because it's a piefed feature set.

                    Based on rimus responses here and elsewhere they do not seem interested in feedback.

                    Even in their comment linking to a thread saying they welcome it, they were attacking someone providing it

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                    • G goferking (he/him)

                      Because it's a piefed feature set.

                      Based on rimus responses here and elsewhere they do not seem interested in feedback.

                      Even in their comment linking to a thread saying they welcome it, they were attacking someone providing it

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                      Skavau
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                      #65

                      Where do you see that in the thread?

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                      • S Skavau

                        Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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                        huquad@lemmy.ml
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                        Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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                        • S Skavau

                          Where do you see that in the thread?

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                          goferking (he/him)
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                          Here = comm

                          And https://lemmy.world/comment/21861362 which leads to

                          https://piefed.social/comment/9670365

                          Where both calls anyone but them looking at the code amateurs and can't understand people wouldn't provide feedback if thought bad things in code were purposely done as so many projects will do that

                          There’s no need to listen to rumors and amateur speculation when we’re right here and happy to help. Come on in, the water’s fine!

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                          • S Skavau

                            Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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                            night_petal
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                            I've been on the microblogging side of the fediverse for some time (the misskey style forks), but really started to miss forum style discussion. 8 joined Lemmy and realized that a huge portion of comments simply weren't displaying on that instance, so I moved to Piefed and am really happy with it so far. There's a lot of features that I like.

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                            • S Skavau

                              Reddit adverts, so many new users

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                              jaybone@lemmy.zip
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                              Is some new drama going on over there lately?

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                              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                The 3 posts I made on reddit promoting the Fediverse and PieFed got over 300,000 views together.

                                More people getting involved in fedigrow could see much higher numbers, but let's not spam.

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                                Rimu
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                                Thank you! 👍👍

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                                • H huquad@lemmy.ml

                                  Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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                                  Rimu
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                                  https://join.piefed.social/features

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                                  • N night_petal

                                    I've been on the microblogging side of the fediverse for some time (the misskey style forks), but really started to miss forum style discussion. 8 joined Lemmy and realized that a huge portion of comments simply weren't displaying on that instance, so I moved to Piefed and am really happy with it so far. There's a lot of features that I like.

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                                    Rimu
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                                    Welcome!

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                                    • G goferking (he/him)

                                      https://lemmy.world/post/42299745

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                                      jaybone@lemmy.zip
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                                      #73

                                      That was an interesting read.

                                      Seems like piefed should fix a lot of that. For some of it, at least make it configurable and not hard coded. But that blocked user stuff seems like a real problem.

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                                      • G goferking (he/him)

                                        Here = comm

                                        And https://lemmy.world/comment/21861362 which leads to

                                        https://piefed.social/comment/9670365

                                        Where both calls anyone but them looking at the code amateurs and can't understand people wouldn't provide feedback if thought bad things in code were purposely done as so many projects will do that

                                        There’s no need to listen to rumors and amateur speculation when we’re right here and happy to help. Come on in, the water’s fine!

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                                        Skavau
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                                        This comment was a month ago, and he was aware of people heavily slamming his project and showing no interest at all in actually sharing it to him.

                                        He isn't specifically "calling out" anyone directly. All he says here is that the stuff people are complaining about here have been on piefed and not hidden since day zero.

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                                        • J jaybone@lemmy.zip

                                          Is some new drama going on over there lately?

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                                          Skavau
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                                          #75

                                          No, it just got advertised by some users from here and managed to cut through.

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