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  • G Grail

    Destroy Reality. Create a Multiverse.

    MULTIVERSE is a PieFed instance for soulists. Our rules are designed to create a safe space for minorities, including those considered unreal by society. We are also an anarchist instance and do not allow tankie propaganda. We aim for transparent and fair moderation in line with the principles of anarcho-antirealism, and to be fertile ground for discussion of soulist ideology. We also aim to be intuitive to use for new fediverse denizens who don't care how federation works, and are just interested in the politics. Our manifesto can be found at http://soulism.net.

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    Limerance
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    I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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      I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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      Grail
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      • Q qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de

        So you don't believe that people have a right to not be murdered?

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        tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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        all of these anarchist flavors are a form of relativism where all that matters is people's individual feelings.

        it's a form of solipsism when you start asking questions about it.

        and when you draw it out, it inevitable leads to consequences that totally contradict it's tenants. but anarchists... don't do that... they just feel the feelings, man.

        anarchism is great if you never think, but some flavors of it regard thinking as an undue burden foist upon people by a unjust society.... hence why you are getting these absurd answer about how gravity is unjust and cruel. I suppose they also regard having to eat/drink/breathe as injustices that 'society' forces upon us.

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        • L lauchmelder@feddit.org

          lol ok, i believe you're just taking the piss, and I'm sure it's not just my perception

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          tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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          #25

          No, they aren't.

          People genuinely believe this stuff. Just like they believe in astrology. It's a form of magical thinking, it's a magical political theory. The core premises being 'liberation'... which just means being a delusional twat who thinks reality horrible and scary and the ideology helps then deny it.

          In other words, it's the equivalent of a child ignore their parents requests res to do chores in the hope the parent/chores will stop asking.

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          • G Grail

            Destroy Reality. Create a Multiverse.

            MULTIVERSE is a PieFed instance for soulists. Our rules are designed to create a safe space for minorities, including those considered unreal by society. We are also an anarchist instance and do not allow tankie propaganda. We aim for transparent and fair moderation in line with the principles of anarcho-antirealism, and to be fertile ground for discussion of soulist ideology. We also aim to be intuitive to use for new fediverse denizens who don't care how federation works, and are just interested in the politics. Our manifesto can be found at http://soulism.net.

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            hector@lemmy.today
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            I want an instance that does not ban anyone or any group. I do not want administrators to protect me from others, or to censor me if I disagree with the group.

            Because the group is way off base on a lot of shit, you better believe it. If it was not we would not be losing.

            We all trust the wrong people, if not the worst people.

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            • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

              all of these anarchist flavors are a form of relativism where all that matters is people's individual feelings.

              it's a form of solipsism when you start asking questions about it.

              and when you draw it out, it inevitable leads to consequences that totally contradict it's tenants. but anarchists... don't do that... they just feel the feelings, man.

              anarchism is great if you never think, but some flavors of it regard thinking as an undue burden foist upon people by a unjust society.... hence why you are getting these absurd answer about how gravity is unjust and cruel. I suppose they also regard having to eat/drink/breathe as injustices that 'society' forces upon us.

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              hector@lemmy.today
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              My experience with anarchists, limted though it is, their hearts are in the right place, they know what sides they are not on, but do not neccessarily know a lot outside of their doctrine. But they will fight.

              So better than most all. Knowing what side you are NOT on is becoming rarer.

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              • H hector@lemmy.today

                My experience with anarchists, limted though it is, their hearts are in the right place, they know what sides they are not on, but do not neccessarily know a lot outside of their doctrine. But they will fight.

                So better than most all. Knowing what side you are NOT on is becoming rarer.

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                tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                #28

                most people don't care about sides. they just care about money.

                and rightfully so. your theory or political stance can't buy you food or a car or other basic necessities.

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                • H hector@lemmy.today

                  I want an instance that does not ban anyone or any group. I do not want administrators to protect me from others, or to censor me if I disagree with the group.

                  Because the group is way off base on a lot of shit, you better believe it. If it was not we would not be losing.

                  We all trust the wrong people, if not the worst people.

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                  Grail
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                  I do not believe the founding principles of MULTIVERSE are representative of the mainstream left, but you're welcome to avoid our instance and users if you choose.

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                  • G Grail

                    I do not believe the founding principles of MULTIVERSE are representative of the mainstream left, but you're welcome to avoid our instance and users if you choose.

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                    hector@lemmy.today
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                    I reject directionalism, I do not give a shit what you or anyone else thinks is left or right. Measured from the colon of billionaires the only direction we need to go is straight backwards.

                    Unilaterally banning groups just echo chambers everyone more, and you give them plenty of ammo constructing insufferable super sensitive overly politically correct charactitures.

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                    • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                      most people don't care about sides. they just care about money.

                      and rightfully so. your theory or political stance can't buy you food or a car or other basic necessities.

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                      hector@lemmy.today
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                      That is true. They would care about sides if there was a good side that fought against them being taken advantage of. People try to win rural, red areas being conservative light. They need new dealist. Too late now maybe.

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                      • G Grail

                        Yes. Gravity does not ask one's consent before pulling. If one has arthritis or chronic fatigue, gravity will hurt them. I believe in building technology to challenge the dominance of this law, such as wheelchairs, fitness programs, and science fiction antigravity machines.

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                        spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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                        This feels like satire, ngl

                        I don't think Gravity is the hierarchy preventing arthritis patients from getting medical care

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                        • H hector@lemmy.today

                          That is true. They would care about sides if there was a good side that fought against them being taken advantage of. People try to win rural, red areas being conservative light. They need new dealist. Too late now maybe.

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                          tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                          they call any new deal type thinking 'populism' and lump it in with Trump.

                          the 'new deal' rural areas are getting is shitty Data centers fucking up their landscapes and giving them zero jobs.

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                          • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                            they call any new deal type thinking 'populism' and lump it in with Trump.

                            the 'new deal' rural areas are getting is shitty Data centers fucking up their landscapes and giving them zero jobs.

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                            hector@lemmy.today
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                            Yep, dem establishment's raison de etre is not beating republicans but quashing popular reform, then extracting money from their and for their donor patrons.

                            It is dumbass logic. They call the far right populist. The far right are pieces of shit. Therefore populists are bad.

                            In a country that chooses leaders with popular votes. Truth is dumber than fiction this is the argument influence ops and sheep will endlessly yell you down with.

                            The far right are fake popular anyway. They scspegoat, or promist to fix issues they want to make worse. Although a handful lile mtg actually believe the hype bless them.

                            Everyone knows they are getting screwed if not by whom. We all know they do not know better, and or refuse to continually endorse an ever worsening party whose only selling point is the other guy is worse.

                            Facing an existential threat in nazis, they figured to stick to the anti popular plan. And STILL do. I am sick of trying to argue it. The not voting people were right all along, it was all pointless. I still want to try, but under these dems there is no chance.

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                            • H hector@lemmy.today

                              I want an instance that does not ban anyone or any group. I do not want administrators to protect me from others, or to censor me if I disagree with the group.

                              Because the group is way off base on a lot of shit, you better believe it. If it was not we would not be losing.

                              We all trust the wrong people, if not the worst people.

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                              blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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                              Not even Nazis or paedophiles?

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                                I want an instance that does not ban anyone or any group. I do not want administrators to protect me from others, or to censor me if I disagree with the group.

                                Because the group is way off base on a lot of shit, you better believe it. If it was not we would not be losing.

                                We all trust the wrong people, if not the worst people.

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                                El Barto
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                                Some moderation is important today. I agree with your idealism, but let's face it. Any unmoderated space would sooner rather than later be run to the ground by a swarm of AI bots, psyop agents, spammers and trolls.

                                Long gone are the days of pristine, unguarded forums.

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                                • G Grail

                                  Yes. Gravity does not ask one's consent before pulling. If one has arthritis or chronic fatigue, gravity will hurt them. I believe in building technology to challenge the dominance of this law, such as wheelchairs, fitness programs, and science fiction antigravity machines.

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                                  El Barto
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                                  Yes. Gravity does not ask one’s consent before pulling.

                                  Lol you lost me here.

                                  What about oxygen? We're enslaved by it. We can't escape it. What are you guys doing about it?

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                                    Yes. Gravity does not ask one’s consent before pulling.

                                    Lol you lost me here.

                                    What about oxygen? We're enslaved by it. We can't escape it. What are you guys doing about it?

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                                    Grail
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                                    Not much. Oxygen is much lower on the list of priorities than capitalism and pluralphobia.

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                                    • E El Barto

                                      Some moderation is important today. I agree with your idealism, but let's face it. Any unmoderated space would sooner rather than later be run to the ground by a swarm of AI bots, psyop agents, spammers and trolls.

                                      Long gone are the days of pristine, unguarded forums.

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                                      hector@lemmy.today
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                                      Yes mechanized troll legions, now entirely autonomous trollbots. You have to ban som users I am sure.

                                      For the fediverse to take off, it needs to be better than reddit, and to thst end, instances should adopt a clear set of rules, where violations can be appealed all the way to a jury of users.

                                      Because powerful interests have their hooks in reddit and induce them to violate users on other issues that are not even ahainst the rules, . Argue with some israeli trollcheerers and you will soon see what I mean. It will only get worse, we can safely presume the government is and will be moreso giving users to ban. Perhaps mostly through contractors to avoid another homeland security leak.

                                      Whole instances should not be banned or blocked to everyone in the instance either.

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                                      • G Grail

                                        Not much. Oxygen is much lower on the list of priorities than capitalism and pluralphobia.

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                                        El Barto
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                                        You technically answered my question, but that verges in strawman territory, man. I was talking about the absurdity of considering gravity a form of human oppression. Can you tell me why I shouldn't see it as absurd, given that it's a natural, inescapable law?

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                                        • H hector@lemmy.today

                                          Yes mechanized troll legions, now entirely autonomous trollbots. You have to ban som users I am sure.

                                          For the fediverse to take off, it needs to be better than reddit, and to thst end, instances should adopt a clear set of rules, where violations can be appealed all the way to a jury of users.

                                          Because powerful interests have their hooks in reddit and induce them to violate users on other issues that are not even ahainst the rules, . Argue with some israeli trollcheerers and you will soon see what I mean. It will only get worse, we can safely presume the government is and will be moreso giving users to ban. Perhaps mostly through contractors to avoid another homeland security leak.

                                          Whole instances should not be banned or blocked to everyone in the instance either.

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                                          El Barto
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                                          I guess we don't disagree, then.

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