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  • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

    most people don't care about sides. they just care about money.

    and rightfully so. your theory or political stance can't buy you food or a car or other basic necessities.

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    hector@lemmy.today
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    That is true. They would care about sides if there was a good side that fought against them being taken advantage of. People try to win rural, red areas being conservative light. They need new dealist. Too late now maybe.

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    • G Grail

      Yes. Gravity does not ask one's consent before pulling. If one has arthritis or chronic fatigue, gravity will hurt them. I believe in building technology to challenge the dominance of this law, such as wheelchairs, fitness programs, and science fiction antigravity machines.

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      spookybogmonster@lemmy.ml
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      #32

      This feels like satire, ngl

      I don't think Gravity is the hierarchy preventing arthritis patients from getting medical care

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      • H hector@lemmy.today

        That is true. They would care about sides if there was a good side that fought against them being taken advantage of. People try to win rural, red areas being conservative light. They need new dealist. Too late now maybe.

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        tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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        #33

        they call any new deal type thinking 'populism' and lump it in with Trump.

        the 'new deal' rural areas are getting is shitty Data centers fucking up their landscapes and giving them zero jobs.

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        • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

          they call any new deal type thinking 'populism' and lump it in with Trump.

          the 'new deal' rural areas are getting is shitty Data centers fucking up their landscapes and giving them zero jobs.

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          hector@lemmy.today
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          #34

          Yep, dem establishment's raison de etre is not beating republicans but quashing popular reform, then extracting money from their and for their donor patrons.

          It is dumbass logic. They call the far right populist. The far right are pieces of shit. Therefore populists are bad.

          In a country that chooses leaders with popular votes. Truth is dumber than fiction this is the argument influence ops and sheep will endlessly yell you down with.

          The far right are fake popular anyway. They scspegoat, or promist to fix issues they want to make worse. Although a handful lile mtg actually believe the hype bless them.

          Everyone knows they are getting screwed if not by whom. We all know they do not know better, and or refuse to continually endorse an ever worsening party whose only selling point is the other guy is worse.

          Facing an existential threat in nazis, they figured to stick to the anti popular plan. And STILL do. I am sick of trying to argue it. The not voting people were right all along, it was all pointless. I still want to try, but under these dems there is no chance.

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          • H hector@lemmy.today

            I want an instance that does not ban anyone or any group. I do not want administrators to protect me from others, or to censor me if I disagree with the group.

            Because the group is way off base on a lot of shit, you better believe it. If it was not we would not be losing.

            We all trust the wrong people, if not the worst people.

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            blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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            #35

            Not even Nazis or paedophiles?

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            • H hector@lemmy.today

              I want an instance that does not ban anyone or any group. I do not want administrators to protect me from others, or to censor me if I disagree with the group.

              Because the group is way off base on a lot of shit, you better believe it. If it was not we would not be losing.

              We all trust the wrong people, if not the worst people.

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              El Barto
              wrote last edited by elbarto777@lemmy.world
              #36

              Some moderation is important today. I agree with your idealism, but let's face it. Any unmoderated space would sooner rather than later be run to the ground by a swarm of AI bots, psyop agents, spammers and trolls.

              Long gone are the days of pristine, unguarded forums.

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              • G Grail

                Yes. Gravity does not ask one's consent before pulling. If one has arthritis or chronic fatigue, gravity will hurt them. I believe in building technology to challenge the dominance of this law, such as wheelchairs, fitness programs, and science fiction antigravity machines.

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                El Barto
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                #37

                Yes. Gravity does not ask one’s consent before pulling.

                Lol you lost me here.

                What about oxygen? We're enslaved by it. We can't escape it. What are you guys doing about it?

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                • E El Barto

                  Yes. Gravity does not ask one’s consent before pulling.

                  Lol you lost me here.

                  What about oxygen? We're enslaved by it. We can't escape it. What are you guys doing about it?

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                  Grail
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                  #38

                  Not much. Oxygen is much lower on the list of priorities than capitalism and pluralphobia.

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                  • E El Barto

                    Some moderation is important today. I agree with your idealism, but let's face it. Any unmoderated space would sooner rather than later be run to the ground by a swarm of AI bots, psyop agents, spammers and trolls.

                    Long gone are the days of pristine, unguarded forums.

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                    hector@lemmy.today
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                    #39

                    Yes mechanized troll legions, now entirely autonomous trollbots. You have to ban som users I am sure.

                    For the fediverse to take off, it needs to be better than reddit, and to thst end, instances should adopt a clear set of rules, where violations can be appealed all the way to a jury of users.

                    Because powerful interests have their hooks in reddit and induce them to violate users on other issues that are not even ahainst the rules, . Argue with some israeli trollcheerers and you will soon see what I mean. It will only get worse, we can safely presume the government is and will be moreso giving users to ban. Perhaps mostly through contractors to avoid another homeland security leak.

                    Whole instances should not be banned or blocked to everyone in the instance either.

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                    • G Grail

                      Not much. Oxygen is much lower on the list of priorities than capitalism and pluralphobia.

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                      El Barto
                      wrote last edited by
                      #40

                      You technically answered my question, but that verges in strawman territory, man. I was talking about the absurdity of considering gravity a form of human oppression. Can you tell me why I shouldn't see it as absurd, given that it's a natural, inescapable law?

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                      • H hector@lemmy.today

                        Yes mechanized troll legions, now entirely autonomous trollbots. You have to ban som users I am sure.

                        For the fediverse to take off, it needs to be better than reddit, and to thst end, instances should adopt a clear set of rules, where violations can be appealed all the way to a jury of users.

                        Because powerful interests have their hooks in reddit and induce them to violate users on other issues that are not even ahainst the rules, . Argue with some israeli trollcheerers and you will soon see what I mean. It will only get worse, we can safely presume the government is and will be moreso giving users to ban. Perhaps mostly through contractors to avoid another homeland security leak.

                        Whole instances should not be banned or blocked to everyone in the instance either.

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                        El Barto
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                        #41

                        I guess we don't disagree, then.

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                        • G Grail

                          Destroy Reality. Create a Multiverse.

                          MULTIVERSE is a PieFed instance for soulists. Our rules are designed to create a safe space for minorities, including those considered unreal by society. We are also an anarchist instance and do not allow tankie propaganda. We aim for transparent and fair moderation in line with the principles of anarcho-antirealism, and to be fertile ground for discussion of soulist ideology. We also aim to be intuitive to use for new fediverse denizens who don't care how federation works, and are just interested in the politics. Our manifesto can be found at http://soulism.net.

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                          kip
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                          #42

                          great news. love to the swarm

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                          • G Grail

                            Yes. Gravity does not ask one's consent before pulling. If one has arthritis or chronic fatigue, gravity will hurt them. I believe in building technology to challenge the dominance of this law, such as wheelchairs, fitness programs, and science fiction antigravity machines.

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                            goferking (he/him)
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                            #43

                            There would not be life without gravity though...

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                            • E El Barto

                              You technically answered my question, but that verges in strawman territory, man. I was talking about the absurdity of considering gravity a form of human oppression. Can you tell me why I shouldn't see it as absurd, given that it's a natural, inescapable law?

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                              Grail
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                              #44

                              I don't really care whether you see gravity as inescapable (though I'm glad the Wright brothers didn't), but there are other "natural, inescapable laws" that are completely fake, and some people cause a lot of harm by attacking those who break them. And so I want you to be open to the concept of people accomplishing the impossible, so that you won't be one of those people.

                              For example, gender essentialists claim that sex is a "natural, inescapable law". And that makes them transphobic. Species essentialists claim that species is a "natural, inescapable law", and not just a convenient social construct biologists use to make their jobs easier. And that makes them kinphobic.

                              I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

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                              • G goferking (he/him)

                                There would not be life without gravity though...

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                                Grail
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                                True, but that doesn't make gravity all good. It puts gravity on about the same ethical standing as an abusive parent. If we can find a way to improve gravity, we should do it.

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                                • G Grail

                                  I don't really care whether you see gravity as inescapable (though I'm glad the Wright brothers didn't), but there are other "natural, inescapable laws" that are completely fake, and some people cause a lot of harm by attacking those who break them. And so I want you to be open to the concept of people accomplishing the impossible, so that you won't be one of those people.

                                  For example, gender essentialists claim that sex is a "natural, inescapable law". And that makes them transphobic. Species essentialists claim that species is a "natural, inescapable law", and not just a convenient social construct biologists use to make their jobs easier. And that makes them kinphobic.

                                  I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

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                                  El Barto
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                                  #46

                                  I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

                                  I can certainly do that.

                                  I don’t really care whether you see gravity as inescapable

                                  Well, this is not helping.


                                  But sorry, absolutely no one can escape gravity. It's everywhere in the universe. Can you escape Earth's gravity? Sure. Good luck escaping the solar system's gravity, or the galaxy's gravity, or the local cluster's gravity. So that's my point. The Wright Brothers "example" is a non-starter.

                                  Everything else you mentioned are not "natural laws." They are human/social constructs, which you pointed out and we can agree on.

                                  But I thought soulism went beyond that. It's okay. Today I learned something new. Thanks.

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                                  • E El Barto

                                    I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

                                    I can certainly do that.

                                    I don’t really care whether you see gravity as inescapable

                                    Well, this is not helping.


                                    But sorry, absolutely no one can escape gravity. It's everywhere in the universe. Can you escape Earth's gravity? Sure. Good luck escaping the solar system's gravity, or the galaxy's gravity, or the local cluster's gravity. So that's my point. The Wright Brothers "example" is a non-starter.

                                    Everything else you mentioned are not "natural laws." They are human/social constructs, which you pointed out and we can agree on.

                                    But I thought soulism went beyond that. It's okay. Today I learned something new. Thanks.

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                                    Grail
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                                    Well, Donald Hoffman, the cognitive psychologist investigating perception of reality, has asserted that spacetime is a mental construct that simplifies our perception of the world around us so that it requires fewer resources to sustain. Since under Einstein gravity is curvature of spacetime, if true this means gravity is part of our interface too. There is something making people fall down ladders, but it's not as simple as our mind perceives it to be, even for Einstein. Newtonian gravity and Aristotlean gravity have of course been entirely debunked and were thus "escaped".

                                    So yeah, gravity is fake. But gravity's fakeness isn't that important.

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                                    • E El Barto

                                      I want you to open your mind to the impossible and question everything.

                                      I can certainly do that.

                                      I don’t really care whether you see gravity as inescapable

                                      Well, this is not helping.


                                      But sorry, absolutely no one can escape gravity. It's everywhere in the universe. Can you escape Earth's gravity? Sure. Good luck escaping the solar system's gravity, or the galaxy's gravity, or the local cluster's gravity. So that's my point. The Wright Brothers "example" is a non-starter.

                                      Everything else you mentioned are not "natural laws." They are human/social constructs, which you pointed out and we can agree on.

                                      But I thought soulism went beyond that. It's okay. Today I learned something new. Thanks.

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                                      Grail
                                      wrote last edited by grail@multiverse.soulism.net
                                      #48

                                      The belief in an objective reality is the source of all bigotries and nearly all oppressions. It's the reason for religious genocides, transphobia, capitalism, and zionism. You believe in less reality than the people who do those things. You're less realist. I want you to go further, be more radical, believe in no reality. I think you haven't gone far enough yet.

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                                      • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                                        most people don't care about sides. they just care about money.

                                        and rightfully so. your theory or political stance can't buy you food or a car or other basic necessities.

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                                        rako
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                                        #49

                                        Caring about money is taking a side though

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                                        • H hector@lemmy.today

                                          I reject directionalism, I do not give a shit what you or anyone else thinks is left or right. Measured from the colon of billionaires the only direction we need to go is straight backwards.

                                          Unilaterally banning groups just echo chambers everyone more, and you give them plenty of ammo constructing insufferable super sensitive overly politically correct charactitures.

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                                          rako
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                                          Going against bilionaires is going pretty left though

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