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  • G Grail

    The belief in an objective reality is the source of all bigotries and nearly all oppressions. It's the reason for religious genocides, transphobia, capitalism, and zionism. You believe in less reality than the people who do those things. You're less realist. I want you to go further, be more radical, believe in no reality. I think you haven't gone far enough yet.

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    El Barto
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    I fundamentally disagree with all you said. You're essentially saying that we must believe in subjectivities, which is a core principle of all religions even if they don't say so.

    By remaining truly objective, I have preserved my capability to be free and to help those surrounding me.

    Yours is just some other metaphysical philosophy, and the "soul" in soulism, a concept I don't believe in at all, should have tipped me off.

    Good luck with everything. Have a nice weekend.

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    • G Grail

      Well, Donald Hoffman, the cognitive psychologist investigating perception of reality, has asserted that spacetime is a mental construct that simplifies our perception of the world around us so that it requires fewer resources to sustain. Since under Einstein gravity is curvature of spacetime, if true this means gravity is part of our interface too. There is something making people fall down ladders, but it's not as simple as our mind perceives it to be, even for Einstein. Newtonian gravity and Aristotlean gravity have of course been entirely debunked and were thus "escaped".

      So yeah, gravity is fake. But gravity's fakeness isn't that important.

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      El Barto
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      Newtonian gravity and Aristotlean gravity have of course been entirely debunked

      Can't speak for the Aristotle part, but yup...... that sentence is just bullshit. Don't say stuff like this in public, man. It's embarrassing.

      Ok, I'm done with this topic.

      Have a good weekend.

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        I fundamentally disagree with all you said. You're essentially saying that we must believe in subjectivities, which is a core principle of all religions even if they don't say so.

        By remaining truly objective, I have preserved my capability to be free and to help those surrounding me.

        Yours is just some other metaphysical philosophy, and the "soul" in soulism, a concept I don't believe in at all, should have tipped me off.

        Good luck with everything. Have a nice weekend.

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        Grail
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        #54

        I find it quite sad that you don't believe chocolate tastes good. I do, and the fact brings Me happiness, despite its subjectivity.

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          Newtonian gravity and Aristotlean gravity have of course been entirely debunked

          Can't speak for the Aristotle part, but yup...... that sentence is just bullshit. Don't say stuff like this in public, man. It's embarrassing.

          Ok, I'm done with this topic.

          Have a good weekend.

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          Grail
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          https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/einstein-showed-newton-was-wrong-about-gravity-now-scientists-are-ncna1038671

          Einstein showed Newton was wrong about gravity

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          • rakoR rako

            Caring about money is taking a side though

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            tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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            nobody doesn't care about money. anyone who says they don't is a liar and are usually the people who are the most easily bought.

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              nobody doesn't care about money. anyone who says they don't is a liar and are usually the people who are the most easily bought.

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              rako
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              You must care about money in a capitalist world, of course; the real question is do you want money to matter all the time or not

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              • rakoR rako

                You must care about money in a capitalist world, of course; the real question is do you want money to matter all the time or not

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                tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                #58

                it doesn't matter what you want, society dictates the rules.

                unless you go off the grid or something. then you can go make your perfect society, because there won't be one.

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                • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                  it doesn't matter what you want, society dictates the rules.

                  unless you go off the grid or something. then you can go make your perfect society, because there won't be one.

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                  rako
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                  Society isn't fate. It doesn't come out of nothing. Accepting/keeping the status quo is accepting the balance that exists, and it's been going right for a dong time.

                  It's not just about what you can or can't do, it's about where you're pushing to

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                  • rakoR rako

                    A more interesting way is to understand that there is a difference between what is and how it affects us. The point isn't so much to decide whether gravity exists or not but to make sure it doesn't impose any unfair weight (ha) on some members of the society and not others. When we say "it's just exists" we're very close to say "there's nothing we can do about this" and that justifies unfair situations.

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                    El Barto
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                    I understand. Thanks!

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                    • G Grail

                      https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/einstein-showed-newton-was-wrong-about-gravity-now-scientists-are-ncna1038671

                      Einstein showed Newton was wrong about gravity

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                      El Barto
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                      #61

                      Lol!

                      For other readers: Einstein expanded Newton's findings. Classical vs quantum physics.

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