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  • RimuR Rimu

    It's not a technical stability we're talking about there - it's more human. Number of admins with SSH access, whether there are donations coming in, if there are daily backups.

    Sorry, all this is undocumented.

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    Ada
    wrote last edited by ada@piefed.blahaj.zone
    #27

    I'm guessing it's because we fund our instances out of our own pockets, and donations don't cover the entire cost? If you're looking for future improvement ideas, I'd much rather that information be exposed directly, than the word "stability" which implies we have uptime issues

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    • AdaA Ada

      tfw 99.6% uptime is only medium stability 😕

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      egonallanon@feddit.uk
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      #28

      Anything less than 5 9's of uptime indicates a lack of commitment.

      Please do not ask about the uptime of my self hosted services.

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      • B biltong

        Source: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

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        Ada
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        #29

        Love to see it!

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        • E egonallanon@feddit.uk

          Anything less than 5 9's of uptime indicates a lack of commitment.

          Please do not ask about the uptime of my self hosted services.

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          Ada
          wrote last edited by
          #30

          Oh crap, I was aiming for 9 5's!

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          • AdaA Ada

            I'm guessing it's because we fund our instances out of our own pockets, and donations don't cover the entire cost? If you're looking for future improvement ideas, I'd much rather that information be exposed directly, than the word "stability" which implies we have uptime issues

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            Rimu
            wrote last edited by
            #31

            Yes I'd be happy to find a better word for it. Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

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            • RimuR Rimu

              Yes I'd be happy to find a better word for it. Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

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              wrote last edited by
              #32

              Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

              I think that's a bit harsh. As it is, Kaity and I would both have to get hit by buses for us to lose the ability to fund our instances. We're both well in to our careers, with sufficient earning power to cover the finances. We would both have to lose our incomes for the long term, before the site itself became threatened. Long enough to ask for community funding if it came to that.

              In real world terms, we've been hosting fediverse instances out of our own pocket for over 3 years now, which is a time period few fediverse instances can match, and even fewer threadiverse instances.

              Which is to say, I think our social stability is pretty reasonable by fediverse standards. There absolutely are instances out there with higher levels of social stability, but that's not because they have more community funding, it's because they have more users and more admins, which also comes with requisite organisational structures that lets them run their instances without any individual admins being the point of failure.

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              • AdaA Ada

                Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

                I think that's a bit harsh. As it is, Kaity and I would both have to get hit by buses for us to lose the ability to fund our instances. We're both well in to our careers, with sufficient earning power to cover the finances. We would both have to lose our incomes for the long term, before the site itself became threatened. Long enough to ask for community funding if it came to that.

                In real world terms, we've been hosting fediverse instances out of our own pocket for over 3 years now, which is a time period few fediverse instances can match, and even fewer threadiverse instances.

                Which is to say, I think our social stability is pretty reasonable by fediverse standards. There absolutely are instances out there with higher levels of social stability, but that's not because they have more community funding, it's because they have more users and more admins, which also comes with requisite organisational structures that lets them run their instances without any individual admins being the point of failure.

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                Rimu
                wrote last edited by
                #33

                Yes, this isn't a personal judgement about your particular circumstances. The instance chooser embeds assumptions about what tends to happen on average. As such it can never fully represent every situation.

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                • recursive_recursionR recursive_recursion

                  can confirm👍

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                  mesa
                  wrote last edited by
                  #34

                  Woo nice!

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                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                    (I fucking hate that word)

                    Not the biggest fan either, but nobody has better alternative. Compared to Forumverse, Threadiverse is a bit better.

                    Also a few threads on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !fedigrow@lemmy.zip

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                    die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                    #35

                    Community-verse? Groupiverse? Topicverse? Lol

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                    • B biltong

                      Source: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

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                      october1@lemmy.world
                      wrote last edited by
                      #36

                      Wtf is piefed

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                      • O october1@lemmy.world

                        Wtf is piefed

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                        prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
                        wrote last edited by prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
                        #37

                        Piefed is a different reddit-like software that federates with Lemmy. It's a different take on the same thing that Lemmy is providing, but still compatible with everything, so a piefed user can see and respond to your comment even if you're on Lemmy.

                        Piefed also has some neat features unique to it, such as:

                        • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
                        • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
                        • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
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                        • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                          Community-verse? Groupiverse? Topicverse? Lol

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                          Blaze (he/him)
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                          #38

                          Exactly why Threadiverse isn't too bad xD

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                          • AdaA Ada

                            Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

                            I think that's a bit harsh. As it is, Kaity and I would both have to get hit by buses for us to lose the ability to fund our instances. We're both well in to our careers, with sufficient earning power to cover the finances. We would both have to lose our incomes for the long term, before the site itself became threatened. Long enough to ask for community funding if it came to that.

                            In real world terms, we've been hosting fediverse instances out of our own pocket for over 3 years now, which is a time period few fediverse instances can match, and even fewer threadiverse instances.

                            Which is to say, I think our social stability is pretty reasonable by fediverse standards. There absolutely are instances out there with higher levels of social stability, but that's not because they have more community funding, it's because they have more users and more admins, which also comes with requisite organisational structures that lets them run their instances without any individual admins being the point of failure.

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                            Rimu
                            wrote last edited by
                            #39

                            The intent of that checkbox in the instance chooser settings is really about gauging financial stability. So for people in your position donations from users don't matter so much and you could just tick it. I'm not auditing anyone!

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                            • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                              Exactly why Threadiverse isn't too bad xD

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                              die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                              wrote last edited by
                              #40

                              Link-aggregator-verse

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                              • S Skavau

                                server speed

                                rocket - fast
                                lightning - medium

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                                turboSnail
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                                #41

                                Phew. Picked my instance based on vibes alone, but it turned out good anyway. Didn't even know about the speed ratings.

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                                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                  Link-aggregator-verse

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                                  turboSnail
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #42

                                  Yeah... That works in the context where people actually share links. Various news communities definitely fit that description, but then there are several discussion communities where links aren't the main point. Take ask lemmy or no stupid questions for example. Oh, and then there are also picture communities like superbowl.

                                  Lumping all of them together with "link aggregator" platforms doesn't fit very well. From a historical perspective that's fine though. As far as I know, Reddit started as a link aggregator, and diversified later.

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                                  • T turboSnail

                                    Yeah... That works in the context where people actually share links. Various news communities definitely fit that description, but then there are several discussion communities where links aren't the main point. Take ask lemmy or no stupid questions for example. Oh, and then there are also picture communities like superbowl.

                                    Lumping all of them together with "link aggregator" platforms doesn't fit very well. From a historical perspective that's fine though. As far as I know, Reddit started as a link aggregator, and diversified later.

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                                    die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                    wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                    #43

                                    yea I was just joking lol, there was recently a discussion about how join-lemmy was still saying "link aggregator" and everyone thought it was a terrible description

                                    https://lemmy.ml/post/41719890

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                                    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                      yea I was just joking lol, there was recently a discussion about how join-lemmy was still saying "link aggregator" and everyone thought it was a terrible description

                                      https://lemmy.ml/post/41719890

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                                      turboSnail
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                                      #44

                                      But I guess that's still technically correct, the best kind of correct. Still sounds odd, but I guess it kinda works as long as you use the term because of historical reasons.

                                      Regardless, now that Lemmy/Piefed has become such diverse platforms, it's getting harder to nail it down into a single convenient term.

                                      I think the defining feature of these platforms is the topic focused approach. On Mastodon, you care about the people who write whatever, while on Lemmy/Piefed, you care about a topic written by whoever.

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                                      • T turboSnail

                                        But I guess that's still technically correct, the best kind of correct. Still sounds odd, but I guess it kinda works as long as you use the term because of historical reasons.

                                        Regardless, now that Lemmy/Piefed has become such diverse platforms, it's getting harder to nail it down into a single convenient term.

                                        I think the defining feature of these platforms is the topic focused approach. On Mastodon, you care about the people who write whatever, while on Lemmy/Piefed, you care about a topic written by whoever.

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                                        OpenStars
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                                        #45

                                        Also Mbin, nodeBB, and perhaps flarum.

                                        Threaded conversations = Threadiverse. Hierarchical replies.

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                                        • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                                          Where's the increase coming from? Users changing from Lemmy or new users to the theadiverse? (I fucking hate that word)

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                                          OpenStars
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #46

                                          Nobody loves it, but fewer people including several major contributors seem to hate it than any alternative.

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                                          It might be nice if The Verse won. It won't, and it shouldn't, but it's a nice thought regardless:-).

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