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  • AdaA Ada

    I'm guessing it's because we fund our instances out of our own pockets, and donations don't cover the entire cost? If you're looking for future improvement ideas, I'd much rather that information be exposed directly, than the word "stability" which implies we have uptime issues

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    Rimu
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    #31

    Yes I'd be happy to find a better word for it. Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

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    • RimuR Rimu

      Yes I'd be happy to find a better word for it. Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

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      Ada
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      #32

      Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

      I think that's a bit harsh. As it is, Kaity and I would both have to get hit by buses for us to lose the ability to fund our instances. We're both well in to our careers, with sufficient earning power to cover the finances. We would both have to lose our incomes for the long term, before the site itself became threatened. Long enough to ask for community funding if it came to that.

      In real world terms, we've been hosting fediverse instances out of our own pocket for over 3 years now, which is a time period few fediverse instances can match, and even fewer threadiverse instances.

      Which is to say, I think our social stability is pretty reasonable by fediverse standards. There absolutely are instances out there with higher levels of social stability, but that's not because they have more community funding, it's because they have more users and more admins, which also comes with requisite organisational structures that lets them run their instances without any individual admins being the point of failure.

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      • AdaA Ada

        Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

        I think that's a bit harsh. As it is, Kaity and I would both have to get hit by buses for us to lose the ability to fund our instances. We're both well in to our careers, with sufficient earning power to cover the finances. We would both have to lose our incomes for the long term, before the site itself became threatened. Long enough to ask for community funding if it came to that.

        In real world terms, we've been hosting fediverse instances out of our own pocket for over 3 years now, which is a time period few fediverse instances can match, and even fewer threadiverse instances.

        Which is to say, I think our social stability is pretty reasonable by fediverse standards. There absolutely are instances out there with higher levels of social stability, but that's not because they have more community funding, it's because they have more users and more admins, which also comes with requisite organisational structures that lets them run their instances without any individual admins being the point of failure.

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        Rimu
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        #33

        Yes, this isn't a personal judgement about your particular circumstances. The instance chooser embeds assumptions about what tends to happen on average. As such it can never fully represent every situation.

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        • recursive_recursionR recursive_recursion

          can confirm👍

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          mesa
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          #34

          Woo nice!

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          • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

            (I fucking hate that word)

            Not the biggest fan either, but nobody has better alternative. Compared to Forumverse, Threadiverse is a bit better.

            Also a few threads on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !fedigrow@lemmy.zip

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            die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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            #35

            Community-verse? Groupiverse? Topicverse? Lol

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            • B biltong

              Source: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

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              october1@lemmy.world
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              #36

              Wtf is piefed

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              • O october1@lemmy.world

                Wtf is piefed

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                prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
                wrote last edited by prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
                #37

                Piefed is a different reddit-like software that federates with Lemmy. It's a different take on the same thing that Lemmy is providing, but still compatible with everything, so a piefed user can see and respond to your comment even if you're on Lemmy.

                Piefed also has some neat features unique to it, such as:

                • a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
                • the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
                • the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.
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                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                  Community-verse? Groupiverse? Topicverse? Lol

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                  Blaze (he/him)
                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  Exactly why Threadiverse isn't too bad xD

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                  • AdaA Ada

                    Although, with low social stability eventually there will be 0% uptime so they are related.

                    I think that's a bit harsh. As it is, Kaity and I would both have to get hit by buses for us to lose the ability to fund our instances. We're both well in to our careers, with sufficient earning power to cover the finances. We would both have to lose our incomes for the long term, before the site itself became threatened. Long enough to ask for community funding if it came to that.

                    In real world terms, we've been hosting fediverse instances out of our own pocket for over 3 years now, which is a time period few fediverse instances can match, and even fewer threadiverse instances.

                    Which is to say, I think our social stability is pretty reasonable by fediverse standards. There absolutely are instances out there with higher levels of social stability, but that's not because they have more community funding, it's because they have more users and more admins, which also comes with requisite organisational structures that lets them run their instances without any individual admins being the point of failure.

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                    Rimu
                    wrote last edited by
                    #39

                    The intent of that checkbox in the instance chooser settings is really about gauging financial stability. So for people in your position donations from users don't matter so much and you could just tick it. I'm not auditing anyone!

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                    • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                      Exactly why Threadiverse isn't too bad xD

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                      die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                      #40

                      Link-aggregator-verse

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                      • S Skavau

                        server speed

                        rocket - fast
                        lightning - medium

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                        turboSnail
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                        #41

                        Phew. Picked my instance based on vibes alone, but it turned out good anyway. Didn't even know about the speed ratings.

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                        • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                          Link-aggregator-verse

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                          turboSnail
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                          #42

                          Yeah... That works in the context where people actually share links. Various news communities definitely fit that description, but then there are several discussion communities where links aren't the main point. Take ask lemmy or no stupid questions for example. Oh, and then there are also picture communities like superbowl.

                          Lumping all of them together with "link aggregator" platforms doesn't fit very well. From a historical perspective that's fine though. As far as I know, Reddit started as a link aggregator, and diversified later.

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                          • T turboSnail

                            Yeah... That works in the context where people actually share links. Various news communities definitely fit that description, but then there are several discussion communities where links aren't the main point. Take ask lemmy or no stupid questions for example. Oh, and then there are also picture communities like superbowl.

                            Lumping all of them together with "link aggregator" platforms doesn't fit very well. From a historical perspective that's fine though. As far as I know, Reddit started as a link aggregator, and diversified later.

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                            die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                            wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                            #43

                            yea I was just joking lol, there was recently a discussion about how join-lemmy was still saying "link aggregator" and everyone thought it was a terrible description

                            https://lemmy.ml/post/41719890

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                            • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                              yea I was just joking lol, there was recently a discussion about how join-lemmy was still saying "link aggregator" and everyone thought it was a terrible description

                              https://lemmy.ml/post/41719890

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                              turboSnail
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                              #44

                              But I guess that's still technically correct, the best kind of correct. Still sounds odd, but I guess it kinda works as long as you use the term because of historical reasons.

                              Regardless, now that Lemmy/Piefed has become such diverse platforms, it's getting harder to nail it down into a single convenient term.

                              I think the defining feature of these platforms is the topic focused approach. On Mastodon, you care about the people who write whatever, while on Lemmy/Piefed, you care about a topic written by whoever.

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                              • T turboSnail

                                But I guess that's still technically correct, the best kind of correct. Still sounds odd, but I guess it kinda works as long as you use the term because of historical reasons.

                                Regardless, now that Lemmy/Piefed has become such diverse platforms, it's getting harder to nail it down into a single convenient term.

                                I think the defining feature of these platforms is the topic focused approach. On Mastodon, you care about the people who write whatever, while on Lemmy/Piefed, you care about a topic written by whoever.

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                                OpenStars
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                                #45

                                Also Mbin, nodeBB, and perhaps flarum.

                                Threaded conversations = Threadiverse. Hierarchical replies.

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                                • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                                  Where's the increase coming from? Users changing from Lemmy or new users to the theadiverse? (I fucking hate that word)

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                                  OpenStars
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                                  #46

                                  Nobody loves it, but fewer people including several major contributors seem to hate it than any alternative.

                                  img

                                  It might be nice if The Verse won. It won't, and it shouldn't, but it's a nice thought regardless:-).

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                                  • H HubertManne

                                    I understand that but when I see a graph that does not start at zero I can take it into account. I get you though about best practice. Usually this type of thing I think is from software defaulting to it to avoid white space. At the extreme if you have something that is at a million and goes up to 1.1 million that can be a huge jump for a particular time span but if you started at zero it would just look like a straight line.

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                                    Ek-Hou-Van-Braai
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                                    #47

                                    Yea I totally get why both exist.
                                    Over long timespans starting at zero will just give you a lot of whitespace

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                                    • blackn1ght@feddit.ukB blackn1ght@feddit.uk

                                      Where's the increase coming from? Users changing from Lemmy or new users to the theadiverse? (I fucking hate that word)

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                                      tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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                                      i heard its being promoted on reddit, could be from there.

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                                      • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                        (I fucking hate that word)

                                        Not the biggest fan either, but nobody has better alternative. Compared to Forumverse, Threadiverse is a bit better.

                                        Also a few threads on !fedibridge@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !fedigrow@lemmy.zip

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                                        cabbage
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                                        #49

                                        The social web is the grown up sounding alternative I guess.

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                                        • cabbageC cabbage

                                          The social web is the grown up sounding alternative I guess.

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                                          Blaze (he/him)
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                                          People will think the social Web is existing social networks

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