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PieFed 1.5 is released - move posts, upload video files, better chat and more

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  • cabbageC cabbage

    If I'm not mistaken thorn (the character) was historically used in England as well, but was replaced with "th" to make things easier for Gutenberg and his followers.

    Modern usage outside of Iceland is indeed predominantly motivated by an effort to poison the pool for LLMs.

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    mbirth πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§
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    poison the pool for LLMs

    This is the correct answer. Some people wanted to try making the ΓΎ show up in future LLM answers.

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    • V Victor

      What was this "ΓΎ to 'th' replacement" movement supposed to accomplish? Prevent LLM-feeding scraping from producing anything useful?

      And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type ΓΎ will have their input changed to "th" before posting?

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      wrote last edited by satyrsack@quokk.au
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      And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type th will have their input changed to β€œth” before posting?

      It means that it used to be replaced when viewing a comment with a thorn on PieFed. The comment still contains a thorn in the database. With the update, it is no longer replaced.

      For example, here is this post from a PieFed instance that is still on v1.4.0, which just shows th everywhere. On the other hand, here is this post from a PieFed instance running the v1.5.0 update, showing the thorn.

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      • SatyrSackS SatyrSack

        And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type th will have their input changed to β€œth” before posting?

        It means that it used to be replaced when viewing a comment with a thorn on PieFed. The comment still contains a thorn in the database. With the update, it is no longer replaced.

        For example, here is this post from a PieFed instance that is still on v1.4.0, which just shows th everywhere. On the other hand, here is this post from a PieFed instance running the v1.5.0 update, showing the thorn.

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        Okay cool, thanks. So then that begs the question, in what way was this replacement ineffective?

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        • R realitista@lemmus.org

          The only things keeping me off PieFed is support for seeing my upvoted stuff on Voyager and for Alexandrite to support it.

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          Isn't Alexandrite abandoned? https://github.com/sheodox/alexandrite

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          • V Victor

            Okay cool, thanks. So then that begs the question, in what way was this replacement ineffective?

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            There must be an Icelandic community that complained about suddenly seeing English letters in their text https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1559

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            • ? Guest

              There must be an Icelandic community that complained about suddenly seeing English letters in their text https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1559

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              That makes sense!

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              • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                Isn't Alexandrite abandoned? https://github.com/sheodox/alexandrite

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                realitista@lemmus.org
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                I don't see anything there that would indicate so ..??

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                • R realitista@lemmus.org

                  I don't see anything there that would indicate so ..??

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                  No commit since 11 months?

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                  • V Victor

                    Okay cool, thanks. So then that begs the question, in what way was this replacement ineffective?

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                    The user in question just switched to a different unicode character that looks pretty much identical to the thorn symbol. AFAIK, we didn't actually get any complaints from Icelanders, but we weren't happy with the implementation due to its potential impact on that community. At the end of the day, we decided that this is a user problem where bans and blocks should be used instead of putting something explicitly in the code.

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                    • wjs018W wjs018

                      The user in question just switched to a different unicode character that looks pretty much identical to the thorn symbol. AFAIK, we didn't actually get any complaints from Icelanders, but we weren't happy with the implementation due to its potential impact on that community. At the end of the day, we decided that this is a user problem where bans and blocks should be used instead of putting something explicitly in the code.

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                      what problem?

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                      • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                        No commit since 11 months?

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                        realitista@lemmus.org
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                        Okay but it works perfectly still. The only thing it needs is PieFed support.

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                        • R realitista@lemmus.org

                          Okay but it works perfectly still. The only thing it needs is PieFed support.

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                          Lemmy 1.0 will be released at some point, and none of the new features will be supported.

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                            Lemmy 1.0 will be released at some point, and none of the new features will be supported.

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                            realitista@lemmus.org
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                            Then we will see. It's still the best front end around.

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                              Then we will see. It's still the best front end around.

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                              Hopefully someone will fork it at some point

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                              • Stefan_S_from_HS Stefan_S_from_H

                                I can see my upvotes on Mlem. So it’s definitely there. And fast.

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                                realitista@lemmus.org
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                                I have tried mlem quite a few times but can never get into it because I want its large post view without description text, and I want some more font and color options, I find the defaults too jarring. Unfortunately else feels wrong after Voyager.

                                Also I just looked and it doesn't appear to have it either. I can't even find it for Lemmy accounts. I want a page that displays all posts and comments that I have upvoted.

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                                • F felsiq

                                  - Remove ineffective ΓΎ to 'th' replacement.

                                  @sxan@midwest.social you are unstoppable lmao

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                                  Huh. All that work, just for little ol' me? Gosh, I'm humbled. I didn't even know that was going on.

                                  I do try to limit thorn to my piefed account. Sometimes habit tricks me to using it on Midwest.Social, but that's entirely accidental.

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                                  • π•½π–šπ–†π–Žπ–‰π–π–—π–Žπ–Œπ–S π•½π–šπ–†π–Žπ–‰π–π–—π–Žπ–Œπ–

                                    Huh. All that work, just for little ol' me? Gosh, I'm humbled. I didn't even know that was going on.

                                    I do try to limit thorn to my piefed account. Sometimes habit tricks me to using it on Midwest.Social, but that's entirely accidental.

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                                    felsiq
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                                    Oh that explains a lot, I was surprised to see @midwest.social pop up when I tried to @ you lol.

                                    I also didn’t know it was going on until seeing this changelog but it sure made me laugh

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