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PieFed 1.5 is released - move posts, upload video files, better chat and more

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  • V Victor

    What was this "þ to 'th' replacement" movement supposed to accomplish? Prevent LLM-feeding scraping from producing anything useful?

    And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type þ will have their input changed to "th" before posting?

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    inlandempire@jlai.lu
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    Icelandic þ is pronounced like th as in thorn, so I guess it was just for ease of reading, but maybe there weren't any Icelandic on piefed so they removed the automatic change

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    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

      cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1653370/piefed-1-5-is-released-move-posts-upload-video-files-better-chat-and-more

      Big deals, omg

      • Mods can move a post, with replies and votes, to another community. The change federates to other instances (except Lemmy, for now. I've been in discussion with devs from NodeBB and Lemmy about how this will work, they are on board).
      • Upload video files while creating a video post - no external host needed. Admin setting to limit who can do this (to save space).
      • Realtime chat - conversation immediately updates on screen when a new PM arrives.

      More good stuff

      • Author-deleted posts are still visible to them and anyone with the url. No more loss of high-value comments with the OP deletes.
      • Search filters - nsfw and minimum post score
      • Improve speed of cross-posting form on mobile
      • Emoji tokens like :blush: can be used in post or comment body. No GUI support yet.
      • Admin setting to disable local copies of remote images - good for single-user instances
      • Replying to a comment marks associated inbox item as read
      • Updated HPT-Fruits theme
      • 196 no longer excluded from default community import
      • Remove unused community rating feature
      • Remove unused instance vote weight feature
      • Remove ineffective þ to 'th' replacement
      • Improved accessibility - better contrast, fixed many incorrectly-used aria-labels
      • Updated translations - Basque, Chinese, Japanese

      API:

      • Admins can ban/unban users through the API. piefed.world was maintaining custom code for this, hopefully it'll make their version upgrades faster.

      Bugs fixed

      • PMs
      • Markdown parsing
      • Speed up loading of profile pages for admin users
      • Friendica post parsing
      • Passkeys login UX tweak

      To upgrade

      To upgrade from 1.4.x:

      git pull  
      git checkout v1.5.x  
      ./deploy.sh or ./deploy-docker.sh  
      
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      realitista@lemmus.org
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      The only things keeping me off PieFed is support for seeing my upvoted stuff on Voyager and for Alexandrite to support it.

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      • R realitista@lemmus.org

        The only things keeping me off PieFed is support for seeing my upvoted stuff on Voyager and for Alexandrite to support it.

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        Stefan_S_from_H
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        #7

        I can see my upvotes on Mlem. So it’s definitely there. And fast.

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        • inlandempire@jlai.luI inlandempire@jlai.lu

          Icelandic þ is pronounced like th as in thorn, so I guess it was just for ease of reading, but maybe there weren't any Icelandic on piefed so they removed the automatic change

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          cabbage
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          If I'm not mistaken thorn (the character) was historically used in England as well, but was replaced with "th" to make things easier for Gutenberg and his followers.

          Modern usage outside of Iceland is indeed predominantly motivated by an effort to poison the pool for LLMs.

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          • cabbageC cabbage

            If I'm not mistaken thorn (the character) was historically used in England as well, but was replaced with "th" to make things easier for Gutenberg and his followers.

            Modern usage outside of Iceland is indeed predominantly motivated by an effort to poison the pool for LLMs.

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            mbirth 🇬🇧
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            poison the pool for LLMs

            This is the correct answer. Some people wanted to try making the þ show up in future LLM answers.

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            • V Victor

              What was this "þ to 'th' replacement" movement supposed to accomplish? Prevent LLM-feeding scraping from producing anything useful?

              And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type þ will have their input changed to "th" before posting?

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              SatyrSack
              wrote last edited by satyrsack@quokk.au
              #10

              And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type th will have their input changed to “th” before posting?

              It means that it used to be replaced when viewing a comment with a thorn on PieFed. The comment still contains a thorn in the database. With the update, it is no longer replaced.

              For example, here is this post from a PieFed instance that is still on v1.4.0, which just shows th everywhere. On the other hand, here is this post from a PieFed instance running the v1.5.0 update, showing the thorn.

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              • SatyrSackS SatyrSack

                And what does the change log entry mean practically? People who type th will have their input changed to “th” before posting?

                It means that it used to be replaced when viewing a comment with a thorn on PieFed. The comment still contains a thorn in the database. With the update, it is no longer replaced.

                For example, here is this post from a PieFed instance that is still on v1.4.0, which just shows th everywhere. On the other hand, here is this post from a PieFed instance running the v1.5.0 update, showing the thorn.

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                Victor
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                #11

                Okay cool, thanks. So then that begs the question, in what way was this replacement ineffective?

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                • R realitista@lemmus.org

                  The only things keeping me off PieFed is support for seeing my upvoted stuff on Voyager and for Alexandrite to support it.

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                  Blaze (he/him)
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                  Isn't Alexandrite abandoned? https://github.com/sheodox/alexandrite

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                  • V Victor

                    Okay cool, thanks. So then that begs the question, in what way was this replacement ineffective?

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                    There must be an Icelandic community that complained about suddenly seeing English letters in their text https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1559

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                    • ? Guest

                      There must be an Icelandic community that complained about suddenly seeing English letters in their text https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1559

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                      Victor
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                      That makes sense!

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                      • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                        Isn't Alexandrite abandoned? https://github.com/sheodox/alexandrite

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                        realitista@lemmus.org
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                        #15

                        I don't see anything there that would indicate so ..??

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                        • R realitista@lemmus.org

                          I don't see anything there that would indicate so ..??

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                          No commit since 11 months?

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                          • V Victor

                            Okay cool, thanks. So then that begs the question, in what way was this replacement ineffective?

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                            wjs018
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                            The user in question just switched to a different unicode character that looks pretty much identical to the thorn symbol. AFAIK, we didn't actually get any complaints from Icelanders, but we weren't happy with the implementation due to its potential impact on that community. At the end of the day, we decided that this is a user problem where bans and blocks should be used instead of putting something explicitly in the code.

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                            • wjs018W wjs018

                              The user in question just switched to a different unicode character that looks pretty much identical to the thorn symbol. AFAIK, we didn't actually get any complaints from Icelanders, but we weren't happy with the implementation due to its potential impact on that community. At the end of the day, we decided that this is a user problem where bans and blocks should be used instead of putting something explicitly in the code.

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                              Nico198X
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                              what problem?

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                              • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                No commit since 11 months?

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                                realitista@lemmus.org
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                                Okay but it works perfectly still. The only thing it needs is PieFed support.

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                                • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                  Okay but it works perfectly still. The only thing it needs is PieFed support.

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                                  Lemmy 1.0 will be released at some point, and none of the new features will be supported.

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                                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                    Lemmy 1.0 will be released at some point, and none of the new features will be supported.

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                                    realitista@lemmus.org
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                                    Then we will see. It's still the best front end around.

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                                    • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                      Then we will see. It's still the best front end around.

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                                      Hopefully someone will fork it at some point

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                                      • Stefan_S_from_HS Stefan_S_from_H

                                        I can see my upvotes on Mlem. So it’s definitely there. And fast.

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                                        realitista@lemmus.org
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                                        #23

                                        I have tried mlem quite a few times but can never get into it because I want its large post view without description text, and I want some more font and color options, I find the defaults too jarring. Unfortunately else feels wrong after Voyager.

                                        Also I just looked and it doesn't appear to have it either. I can't even find it for Lemmy accounts. I want a page that displays all posts and comments that I have upvoted.

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                                        • F felsiq

                                          - Remove ineffective þ to 'th' replacement.

                                          @sxan@midwest.social you are unstoppable lmao

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                                          𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍
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                                          Huh. All that work, just for little ol' me? Gosh, I'm humbled. I didn't even know that was going on.

                                          I do try to limit thorn to my piefed account. Sometimes habit tricks me to using it on Midwest.Social, but that's entirely accidental.

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