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  3. Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • D DeliciousDoorknob

    The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary "LET ME EXPLAIN" scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots.

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    edible_funk
    wrote last edited by edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
    #52

    The entirety of the show is like that. It's not like a deep thinky clever show, it's a series of 80's horror movie references tossed in a blender.

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    • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

      Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

      Make good stuff, and people will come.

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      evol@lemmy.today
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      #53

      people like the idea of liking good stuff, they do not like good stuff. This is the #1 rule of making money

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      • R reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net

        I find shows and movies that show something happen clearly and then restate it in the dialogue immediately quite annoying. Very common in anime.

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        evol@lemmy.today
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        #54

        I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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        • DylanMc6 [any, any]D DylanMc6 [any, any]

          If the US were a socialist country, there would be less atomization. What do you think?

          EDIT: I mean the atomization of society, NOT actual atomization.

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          kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          #55

          I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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          • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

            I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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            portifornia@lemmy.world
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            #56

            I think you're both right, somehow.

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            • E evol@lemmy.today

              I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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              reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
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              #57

              That’s a good point, I agree for anime it is probably stylistic like some comic book movies are comic-y.

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              • E evol@lemmy.today

                people like the idea of liking good stuff, they do not like good stuff. This is the #1 rule of making money

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                oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip
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                good stuff needs to go hardcore enough some people will cringe away and not making cringe is more important than making good, because getting the anthill of these people will not give me money to give you money is more important than keeping the mountain of people who will give you money happy.

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                • F FishFace

                  People will leave if they don't like what they see. People won't like what they don't understand. People won't understand what isn't either simple or redundantly written because they don't pay attention.

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                  lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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                  #59

                  80% of “plot holes” people online complain about is just them either being in their phone or absolutely not understanding subtext or anything implied.

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                  • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

                    I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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                    potatar@lemmy.world
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                    #60

                    No they are not. I cannot watch them unless i speed them up past what Netflix allows me. They are so slow and information sparse that i cannot watch them.

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                      freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                      It’s the big tech social media disease.

                      Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

                      It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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                      • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                        It’s the big tech social media disease.

                        Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

                        It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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                        atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works
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                        Does that include Lemmy?

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                        • A atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works

                          Does that include Lemmy?

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                          freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                          #63

                          You tell me:

                          -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                          -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

                          -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

                          -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

                          I think not.

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                          • J jankatarch@lemmy.world

                            It's not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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                            hector@lemmy.today
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                            Modern shows are lazy, they are like 6, 10 episodes tops. The simpsons in the 90s before they sucked did almost 30. They would take summer off, then breaks on xmas and spring but a show a week otherwise.

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                              hakunawazo@lemmy.world
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                              You could absolutely do it in a funny way like Kronk (Emperors New Groove) or Luis (Ant-Man).

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                                notmyoldredditname@lemmy.world
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                                Now I'm curious, am I checking my phone after they've repeated the same thing 3 or 4 times and now I'm bored / annoyed?

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                                  skisnow@lemmy.ca
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                                  I like when Matt Damon restates his name three or four times in the dialogue

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                                  • edible_funkE edible_funk

                                    The entirety of the show is like that. It's not like a deep thinky clever show, it's a series of 80's horror movie references tossed in a blender.

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                                    DeliciousDoorknob
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                                    #68

                                    Yes and no. This season has been pretty weak in the writing department, so some of these ideas that worked before were overused/used poorly this season. And for an 80s-throwback series, it ends rather depressingly, no matter how you spin it. But it's par for the course these days for the final season/finale to shit the bed, I guess.

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                                    • H hector@lemmy.today

                                      Modern shows are lazy, they are like 6, 10 episodes tops. The simpsons in the 90s before they sucked did almost 30. They would take summer off, then breaks on xmas and spring but a show a week otherwise.

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                                      FudgyMcTubbs
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                                      #69

                                      Dude.... That was annual, too. These modern day 8-episode shows will have YEARS between seasons. Like, motherfucker, half your scenes are green screen in a big sound studio -- what the fuck is taking you so long?!

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                                      • RiskableR Riskable

                                        Talk about the wrong response!

                                        If they want people to not look away or do something else while the movie is playing you gotta keep it interesting.

                                        Ya know, like perhaps making movies that aren't just rehashes of the same old stories.

                                        Make movies and shows that keep people on their toes!

                                        Making a crime drama? Throw in some traveler from the future or a demon or both! Give the judge two heads because of a "merging accident" or something!

                                        Putting together a horror movie? Throw in some romance among the monsters! Have them feed each other eyeballs or something!

                                        Making an anime? Try something totally radical! Like a male protagonist with non-dark hair that has a personality, or make a couple—in love—who get stuck somewhere together, alone have actual sex (like normal teens would) or something!

                                        Making a K-drama? Add a black guy and make him one of the main characters... Haha, just kidding! That would be too radical! That'd be just as extreme as making an anime that covers the time period a few years after "the hero" formed his harem!

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                                        FudgyMcTubbs
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                                        Wow... I dont want to see any of those potential movies you just pitched.

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                                        • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC corkyskog@sh.itjust.works

                                          I wouldn't have my phone out to begin with Netflix if you didn't start adding ads.

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                                          rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                                          You pay for ads? There's like a Plex server every 5 houses in my neighborhood, and we are all poor as shit. Maybe that's it though, find you some poor people and stop paying for Netflix

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