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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • Brave Little Hitachi WandY Brave Little Hitachi Wand

    In anime, you should expect repetitive exposition. Can it be that Netflix has gained this power, too?

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    hexarei@beehaw.org
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    #46

    Netflix has gained the power of repetitive exposition? Such a feat has only been attained by anime before! One should expect it there, but now it's really bothering OP!

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    • A anon_8675309@lemmy.world

      Make content that makes people put their phones down.

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      triasha@lemmy.world
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      #47

      This is part of the genius of kpop demon hunters. It moves fast, sometimes frenetically.

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      • J jankatarch@lemmy.world

        It's not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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        theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world
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        I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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          ilandar@lemmy.today
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          All that said, I don’t think the last season was terrible. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. The actual plot and ending of the story, I thought were perfectly mediocre and fine. It was ruined by the dialogue.

          I agree with you, it was better than I expected (although I had extremely low expectations to be fair). The most miserable parts of the final season were the long "emotional" character moments with the most juvenile/amateur/unrealistic writing. I don't skip as a rule, but I really felt like fast forwarding through some of that stuff, it was so cringe.

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            DylanMc6 [any, any]
            wrote last edited by dylanmc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            #50

            If the US were a socialist country, there would be less atomization. What do you think?

            EDIT: I mean the atomization of society, NOT actual atomization.

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            • W whyihatetheinternet@lemmy.world

              I can't stand short videos. I won't even watch videos that aren't an hour or longer myself. I don't get these shorts, it's so unsatisfying.

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              edible_funk
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              #51

              We get our short attention span jones from reading headlines and comments.

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              • D DeliciousDoorknob

                The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary "LET ME EXPLAIN" scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots.

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                edible_funk
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                #52

                The entirety of the show is like that. It's not like a deep thinky clever show, it's a series of 80's horror movie references tossed in a blender.

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                • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                  Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

                  Make good stuff, and people will come.

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                  evol@lemmy.today
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                  #53

                  people like the idea of liking good stuff, they do not like good stuff. This is the #1 rule of making money

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                  • R reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net

                    I find shows and movies that show something happen clearly and then restate it in the dialogue immediately quite annoying. Very common in anime.

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                    evol@lemmy.today
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                    #54

                    I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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                    • DylanMc6 [any, any]D DylanMc6 [any, any]

                      If the US were a socialist country, there would be less atomization. What do you think?

                      EDIT: I mean the atomization of society, NOT actual atomization.

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                      kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      #55

                      I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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                      • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

                        I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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                        portifornia@lemmy.world
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                        #56

                        I think you're both right, somehow.

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                        • E evol@lemmy.today

                          I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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                          reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net
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                          That’s a good point, I agree for anime it is probably stylistic like some comic book movies are comic-y.

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                          • E evol@lemmy.today

                            people like the idea of liking good stuff, they do not like good stuff. This is the #1 rule of making money

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                            oyenyaaow@lemmy.zip
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                            good stuff needs to go hardcore enough some people will cringe away and not making cringe is more important than making good, because getting the anthill of these people will not give me money to give you money is more important than keeping the mountain of people who will give you money happy.

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                            • F FishFace

                              People will leave if they don't like what they see. People won't like what they don't understand. People won't understand what isn't either simple or redundantly written because they don't pay attention.

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                              lepinkainen@lemmy.world
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                              80% of “plot holes” people online complain about is just them either being in their phone or absolutely not understanding subtext or anything implied.

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                              • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

                                I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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                                potatar@lemmy.world
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                                No they are not. I cannot watch them unless i speed them up past what Netflix allows me. They are so slow and information sparse that i cannot watch them.

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                                  freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                                  It’s the big tech social media disease.

                                  Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

                                  It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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                                  • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                                    It’s the big tech social media disease.

                                    Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

                                    It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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                                    atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Does that include Lemmy?

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                                    • A atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works

                                      Does that include Lemmy?

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                                      freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                                      You tell me:

                                      -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                                      -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

                                      -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

                                      -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

                                      I think not.

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                                      • J jankatarch@lemmy.world

                                        It's not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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                                        hector@lemmy.today
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                                        Modern shows are lazy, they are like 6, 10 episodes tops. The simpsons in the 90s before they sucked did almost 30. They would take summer off, then breaks on xmas and spring but a show a week otherwise.

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                                          hakunawazo@lemmy.world
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                                          You could absolutely do it in a funny way like Kronk (Emperors New Groove) or Luis (Ant-Man).

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