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Would it be possible to track more statistics? (some potentially gross ideas)

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  • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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    die4ever@retrolemmy.com
    wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
    #1

    If we really want to figure which instances to suggest, it could maybe be good to have some additional statistics tracked per instance, and compare to the global averages. It might even be able to influence default choices for like the join-lemmy website.

    I understand this might sound gross, but maybe there's a good idea in here?

    • user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
    • percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
    • ban rate
    • signup acceptance/rejection speed
    • percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)
    • average time spent on signup page
    • bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)
    AusterA asudoxA t҉̠̙ǵ̣̞̄ͪ͜x̸̱͚̳ͫ͐̑̈ͯͣ̚n̒͌҉͉̦̜̝ͅT NutomicN 4 Replies Last reply
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    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

      If we really want to figure which instances to suggest, it could maybe be good to have some additional statistics tracked per instance, and compare to the global averages. It might even be able to influence default choices for like the join-lemmy website.

      I understand this might sound gross, but maybe there's a good idea in here?

      • user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
      • percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
      • ban rate
      • signup acceptance/rejection speed
      • percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)
      • average time spent on signup page
      • bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)
      AusterA This user is from outside of this forum
      AusterA This user is from outside of this forum
      Auster
      wrote last edited by
      #2

      Only instance I think you'd find such things is Threads and only if you work there. Also, it sounds rather telescreen-ish, so I would think this depth of info can't be found here.

      Personally, I'd recommend based on features, the instance's scope, monthly active users (that is usually tracked by fediverse database sites), and the experiences with a given instance's community.

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      • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

        If we really want to figure which instances to suggest, it could maybe be good to have some additional statistics tracked per instance, and compare to the global averages. It might even be able to influence default choices for like the join-lemmy website.

        I understand this might sound gross, but maybe there's a good idea in here?

        • user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
        • percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
        • ban rate
        • signup acceptance/rejection speed
        • percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)
        • average time spent on signup page
        • bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)
        asudoxA This user is from outside of this forum
        asudoxA This user is from outside of this forum
        asudox
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        Not everything, but some might be possible with plugins. Lemmy v1.0.0 will have some sort of plugin system and afaik Piefed already has them.

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        • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

          If we really want to figure which instances to suggest, it could maybe be good to have some additional statistics tracked per instance, and compare to the global averages. It might even be able to influence default choices for like the join-lemmy website.

          I understand this might sound gross, but maybe there's a good idea in here?

          • user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
          • percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
          • ban rate
          • signup acceptance/rejection speed
          • percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)
          • average time spent on signup page
          • bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)
          t҉̠̙ǵ̣̞̄ͪ͜x̸̱͚̳ͫ͐̑̈ͯͣ̚n̒͌҉͉̦̜̝ͅT This user is from outside of this forum
          t҉̠̙ǵ̣̞̄ͪ͜x̸̱͚̳ͫ͐̑̈ͯͣ̚n̒͌҉͉̦̜̝ͅT This user is from outside of this forum
          t҉̠̙ǵ̣̞̄ͪ͜x̸̱͚̳ͫ͐̑̈ͯͣ̚n̒͌҉͉̦̜̝ͅ
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          should I add this to Lemmyverse 😅

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          • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

            If we really want to figure which instances to suggest, it could maybe be good to have some additional statistics tracked per instance, and compare to the global averages. It might even be able to influence default choices for like the join-lemmy website.

            I understand this might sound gross, but maybe there's a good idea in here?

            • user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
            • percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
            • ban rate
            • signup acceptance/rejection speed
            • percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)
            • average time spent on signup page
            • bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)
            NutomicN This user is from outside of this forum
            NutomicN This user is from outside of this forum
            Nutomic
            wrote last edited by nutomic@lemmy.ml
            #5
            • user retention (percentage of users that are still active after 6 months? 1 month?)
            • ban rate
            • percentage of accepted signups vs failed/declined (maybe this just promotes accepting spammers)

            These wouldnt be hard to add as we already have the data. Its not relevant for normal usage of the site, so it could be a new endpoint /api/v4/statistics. Feel free to open an issue.

            • signup acceptance/rejection speed

            Already being added: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/6126

            • percentage of anonymous visits that result in a signup (ignore those that result in a login)
            • average time spent on signup page
            • bounce rate of signup page (opened but never completed)

            These are more difficult as it would require new frontend logic to collect the data, then send it to the backend and have more changes to store it in the db. Not worth the effort in my opinion, but you can also mention it in the issue.

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            • asudoxA asudox

              Not everything, but some might be possible with plugins. Lemmy v1.0.0 will have some sort of plugin system and afaik Piefed already has them.

              NutomicN This user is from outside of this forum
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              Nutomic
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              Plugins mainly have hooks which are called when a new post is created, a comment is updated or things like that. Giving plugins access to everything in the database is more complicated. We could let plugins execute SQL and get the results, but that has security risks.

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              • NutomicN Nutomic

                Plugins mainly have hooks which are called when a new post is created, a comment is updated or things like that. Giving plugins access to everything in the database is more complicated. We could let plugins execute SQL and get the results, but that has security risks.

                asudoxA This user is from outside of this forum
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                asudox
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                Instead of letting plugins execute raw SQL, why not expose certain functions like ones for crud operations on db models?

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                • asudoxA asudox

                  Instead of letting plugins execute raw SQL, why not expose certain functions like ones for crud operations on db models?

                  NutomicN This user is from outside of this forum
                  NutomicN This user is from outside of this forum
                  Nutomic
                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  That wouldnt be enough to get the kind of statistics mentioned in this post.

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