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    is the time shown on steam reviews accurate? cause i'd guess that it takes more than 12 minutes for a casual player to finish half-life 2

    in fact i checked and the world record in speedrunning is around 36 minutes lol

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      I never use LLM except for pentesting or experimental/medicine.
      Meanwhile, I am sorry to know that you found it nonsense.

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      experimental/medicine

      You use AI for literally its most dangerous possible use case. And I assume you used a mediocre translator for everything else. Try DeepL, I found it has good results most of the time.

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        Assassin's Creed Odyssey Watch_Dogs 2

        // Image source: Personal backups of screenshots

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        Hey I have some pretty screenshots too!

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        • Chloé 🥕C Chloé 🥕

          is the time shown on steam reviews accurate? cause i'd guess that it takes more than 12 minutes for a casual player to finish half-life 2

          in fact i checked and the world record in speedrunning is around 36 minutes lol

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          dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza
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          I have some similar reviews with 0 hours because I usually play a cracked version of the game and then buy it if i like it just to support the dev. Maybe that's what was going on here.

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            regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
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            #26

            Yeah I played it for the first time last year and I couldn't really get into it. Gave up a few hours in.

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              Tar_Alcaran
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              #27

              HL2 has a ton of story, but it isn't spelled out in cutscenes or written down in item descriptions. It's discussed by NPCs and inferred from the environment. You experience it all in a first person frame, without third person cutscenes or by asking someone to exposit at you. You don't even have to go out of your way with a guide on your second monitor to unlock that info, it's right there with you, you just have to pay attention.

              You're a person in the world and nobody will be the explaining the concept of lightbulbs or the where the combine came from or how the city was built. But you can absolutely find out more about that in the game.

              But yes, we all hate the cliffhanger.

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              • D dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza

                I have some similar reviews with 0 hours because I usually play a cracked version of the game and then buy it if i like it just to support the dev. Maybe that's what was going on here.

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                that makes sense. maybe the mod they installed causes steam to not count the hours.

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                  prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
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                  #29

                  As someone who hates open-world ubisoft style games, I'm nevertheless not much of a fan of HL2 either. I tried it multiple times at different points in my life and each time found it to feel like a slog that I end up giving up on a few hours in.

                  I enjoyed the 1984 aspects of the world at first, but I ultimately can't get past how bullet spongy enemies are. Virtually every weapon feels extremely impotent except the revolver, which has very limited ammo. I began to dread every encounter with enemies because it rarely felt fun to fight them.

                  On my last playthrough I cheated and gave myself infinite revolver ammo, which helped me get farther than before, but even then I was struggling to push onward after a certain point, just because it felt like endless waves of enemies being thrown at me with some mildly enjoyable physics puzzles tossed in between them.

                  Never felt a connection with any of the characters, and without that the gameplay itself just becomes repetitive to me.

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                    isyasad@lemmy.world
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                    truly dull sections - yes I'm looking at you the vehicle sections ... makes playing through HL2 a slog. Just a few hours in, I didn't want to play any more. I was done.

                    Totally agree with this. HL1 is one of my favorite games ever but HL2 was just boring. I tried it a few times and never finished. Opposing Force and Blue Shift are my Half Life 2 and Half Life 3.

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                      murrayl@lemmy.world
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                      I fucking love Highway 17 - it’s an atmospheric and enjoyable road trip and I will die on this hill.

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                      • Chloé 🥕C Chloé 🥕

                        is the time shown on steam reviews accurate? cause i'd guess that it takes more than 12 minutes for a casual player to finish half-life 2

                        in fact i checked and the world record in speedrunning is around 36 minutes lol

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                        deaddigger@lemmy.zip
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                        Lots of mods for older games circumvent steam, so steam does not know about the game running. Famous example was Skyrim and Skyrim script extender. If this is the case with mmod idk

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                          Sorry, no. And I am sorry you found LLM useful, and consider experimental/unverified data "dangerous", likely inadequately or for the sense of hateful trolling, and it's hard to live that way, I presume...

                          Related:
                          - https://lemmy.world/post/41419554/21487153
                          - https://mander.xyz/post/45102281/24408089
                          - https://lemmus.org/post/41151011/21366171

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                            Thank you!

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                              skunkworkz@lemmy.world
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                              Yeah gameplay wise the game basically leaned a lot on novelty. But they are wrong to say that it lacks world building and lore because it’s scant on narrative. That’s like saying “the Quiet Place lacks world building because there is barely any narrative”. The game is excellent in using game mechanics to tell a story. Instead of relying on the storytelling mechanics of film.

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                                Ah good catch, that means they lied as well.

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                                He said that he played through it in PS3 back in the day

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                                • Chloé 🥕C Chloé 🥕

                                  is the time shown on steam reviews accurate? cause i'd guess that it takes more than 12 minutes for a casual player to finish half-life 2

                                  in fact i checked and the world record in speedrunning is around 36 minutes lol

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                                  caut_r@lemmy.world
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                                  If you play in offline mode (Steam Deck) Steam doesn‘t clock your playtime IIRC

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                                  • prodigalfrog@slrpnk.netP prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net

                                    As someone who hates open-world ubisoft style games, I'm nevertheless not much of a fan of HL2 either. I tried it multiple times at different points in my life and each time found it to feel like a slog that I end up giving up on a few hours in.

                                    I enjoyed the 1984 aspects of the world at first, but I ultimately can't get past how bullet spongy enemies are. Virtually every weapon feels extremely impotent except the revolver, which has very limited ammo. I began to dread every encounter with enemies because it rarely felt fun to fight them.

                                    On my last playthrough I cheated and gave myself infinite revolver ammo, which helped me get farther than before, but even then I was struggling to push onward after a certain point, just because it felt like endless waves of enemies being thrown at me with some mildly enjoyable physics puzzles tossed in between them.

                                    Never felt a connection with any of the characters, and without that the gameplay itself just becomes repetitive to me.

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                                    katana314@lemmy.world
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                                    I think the pistol and SMG are intended to feel weak, to push you into other weapons that take more interesting use. For instance, half an SMG clip into a soldier could instead be one launch of a barrel from the gravity gun. Notably, you only see those soldiers after getting the gravity gun.

                                    If you’re referring to the early cops, about half of them are around some tricky environmental kill, like an explosive barrel. But, I’ll grant there are times you’d desperately spend a magazine to land headshots with the pistol. So, I guess you’re not wrong.

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                                    • T Tar_Alcaran

                                      HL2 has a ton of story, but it isn't spelled out in cutscenes or written down in item descriptions. It's discussed by NPCs and inferred from the environment. You experience it all in a first person frame, without third person cutscenes or by asking someone to exposit at you. You don't even have to go out of your way with a guide on your second monitor to unlock that info, it's right there with you, you just have to pay attention.

                                      You're a person in the world and nobody will be the explaining the concept of lightbulbs or the where the combine came from or how the city was built. But you can absolutely find out more about that in the game.

                                      But yes, we all hate the cliffhanger.

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                                      katana314@lemmy.world
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                                      I will say that even then, it was missing a bit of “acknowledgment”. Kleiner and Alyx don’t even question where you came from or what you should be doing now you’ve suddenly arrived.

                                      Some of that could be as simple as, if Gordon was non-silent, have him wonder questions while wandering C17: “What the…how long have I been gone? What the hell happened to Earth?”

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                                      • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                                        Friends of mine who played at two different points far after launch still found it to be just as great, even if the physics and facial animations were no longer best in class.

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                                        katana314@lemmy.world
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                                        I still like its facial animation more than most Danes. They had tools that even set up random NPCs to have full lipsync and expressions for minor lines, without a mocap studio. Most AAA work these days doesn’t have that, or they dedicate such animation to when you’re in a zoomed in view to receive quests.

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                                        • C caut_r@lemmy.world

                                          If you play in offline mode (Steam Deck) Steam doesn‘t clock your playtime IIRC

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                                          appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Afaik it does if it resyncs. Just takes a while to update

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