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‘Everybody’s at each other’s throats’: James Cameron says he has left the US permanently

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  • B bowtiesarecool@lemmy.world

    Generally comments on Facebook. I was seeing vitriolic death shit around the Charlie Kirk stuff but extended. Everyone in the comments telling each other to die and threatening. It was gross. Driven by bots it gets everyone worked up. Since the ICE “crackdown” though it seems to be just racists vs sensible people, and I’m glad for that.

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    optissima@lemmy.world
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    I did see a lot of people who were glad or even gleeful he wasn't spouting his vitriol and died in a way he explicitly approved of, but I'm not on facebook so I didn't see people making threats at each other. That being said, I know that people both to the right and left of Kirk hated him, so it's very possible all the hate being spewed was from the right. Seeing as how since the ICE surge isn't getting the same level of vitriol, I think it's safe to say that most of those weren't people that weren't "left" in any sense of the imagination, or just bots.

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    • M mech@feddit.org

      You're describing a valid criticism of Capitalism, which I share 100%.
      I just don't think that translates well to a direct guilt for Cameron.
      He couldn't have brought his movies to the screen if he didn't work within this system.
      Of course now that he's been successful, he could definitely donate his wealth.

      On the other hand, I could also donate all $50k of my life savings without starving, while others are currently starving.
      And I'm not going to do it. I carry the same type of guilt, only with lower numbers.

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      optissima@lemmy.world
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      I think Keanu Reeves and the Matrix is a good example of being in the system and sharing within it.

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        peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world
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        The whole country is doing a Titanic.

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        • optissima@lemmy.worldO optissima@lemmy.world

          Wait who is supportive of genocide that isn't a conservative??

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          ohulancutash@feddit.uk
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          Start with this shower.

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          • E ecvanalog@lemmy.world

            Must be nice to have the ability to do it.

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            He is literally not American

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            • O oshaghennessey@lemmy.world

              Fuck that. Get your able-bodied ass back here and help us fix this shit, you coward!

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              He is in fact a Canadian from Canada. Do you think everyone who left Nazi Germany in the 30s was a coward?

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              • O ohulancutash@feddit.uk

                Start with this shower.

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                optissima@lemmy.world
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                Those are conservatives, they're just lying about it. The act of supporting genocide immediately places you in that group.

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                • R ratel@mander.xyz

                  ITT: People mad that Canadian celebrity won't stay in the US and fix it.

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                  ITT: People who don't know that most immigrants around the world are in fact poor people

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                  • C carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works

                    "At each other's throats?" 30% of the country is behaving like Nazis, others are calling them on it, and a disturbing percentage are silent. Yes I suppose more people could be silent to help preserve his feelings.

                    He has the money and platform to speak out. Instead he leaves.

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                    Dr. Moose
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                    As a professional scuba diver I think his ocean-related work is much more important than America. Sorry guys but the world doesn't revolve around you.

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                    • I itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world

                      He hasn't done a decent movie since aliens but I guess your right. He is a pussy who has done useless things but didn't insist on building the sub himself. Like other dumb asses have and failed.

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                      Dr. Moose
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                      Nah man I'm a professional scuba diver (well retired now) and avatar 2 and 3 made huge difference in pop cultural understand of the ocean. It's his most important work yet and one of the most important Hollywood movies ever. I've seen thousands of people here in Thailand alone who got into scuba diving and reduced their sea food consumption just because of Avatar - this is good!

                      Don't let your hate for the system blind you.

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                      • P peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world

                        The whole country is doing a Titanic.

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                        dellish@lemmy.world
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                        Doing a speed run from "I'm the King of the World!" to drowning.

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                        • A aim_at_me@lemmy.nz

                          Yeah. And as a kiwi it kinda pisses me off that we let wealthy Americans in. I'd rather it was a generic visa program than a pay-to-play.

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                          duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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                          I mean, you can just put boulders over the bunker doors when they try hiding.

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                            northwestthrills@lemmy.world
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                            Whenever I see people telling American to just leave the US, I always think "so I have to be rich to move to a new country? And I'm supposed to be a problem?" It costs tens of thousands of dollars to get just the application. It's extremely privileged to assume everyone can do that.

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                              Whenever I see people telling American to just leave the US, I always think "so I have to be rich to move to a new country? And I'm supposed to be a problem?" It costs tens of thousands of dollars to get just the application. It's extremely privileged to assume everyone can do that.

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                              beardededsquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              Back during W Bush second term, I looked at migration to just Canada. It was several thousands of dollars for the application, need to have employment shortly after moving there or before then. Now it's harder to do so.

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                              • R ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip

                                We need someone stronger than them since they still compromised with conservatives. We need someone who will control the party with an iron fist and yank everything left instead of just wanting to return to the status quo. Someone willing to tell every Republican and their supporters to go fuck themselves.

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                                sabinstargem@lemmy.today
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                                I hope that someone is AOC. It would be an extra spicy repudiation to these bastards if it was GASP, a woman, who reformed America and is a central figure in the history books.

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                                • R ronl2k@lemmy.world

                                  Cameron will be forgotten once he leaves the Hollywood media bubble. He's never been politically influential, and his short intervals of fame relied solely on 2 movies. But his fame from Titanic and Avatar has mostly died out.

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                                  sabinstargem@lemmy.today
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                                  He could always make an anti-Trump film, and have the EU fund it.

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                                  • anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    Exactly, in the article he sees the problem but instead of using his money to help he fucks off to be safe. He may not be an asshole but he's a a bit cowardish for it I feel even if he can still help from NZ it's more likely he will just focus on his life there than try to put out the gordian garbage fire that is the US

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                                    mikethemaker006@reddthat.com
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                                    Oh no, its well documented that he's a raging asshole. Fuck James Cameron.

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                                    • W wonderingwanderer

                                      I mean, remaining on a sinking ship doesn't save anyone else from drowning. Some people have a life raft, I can't blame them for using it. I would get out if I could, cause things don't seem to be getting better anytime soon except on the off chance the midterms actually save us.

                                      Ideally, the folks getting away on the life rafts wouldn't be determined by how much money they have. Maybe send the most vulnerable first, and the people with the means to resist stay behind. But that's not how this situation works, unfortunately.

                                      It's a crabs-in-a-bucket situation. Why pull down the ones who can escape?

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                                      sabinstargem@lemmy.today
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                                      Honestly, if I was relatively wealthy, odds are that I would tuck tail and run away from the US. Unfortunately, my poverty has backed me into a corner. Flight isn't an option, only fight.

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                                      • O ohulancutash@feddit.uk

                                        Why does a canadian have an obligation to help the US?

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                                        Which countries do you think the mess will overflow into first? (Not to mention the ongoing global effects of the US dumpster fire)

                                        Nationalism isn't a useful way to see the situation. It's everyone's problem, and those who have the wealth and influence to help are especially obliged to solve this.

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                                        • R ronl2k@lemmy.world

                                          Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?

                                          America will outlast Trump. The Dems need another candidate with the campaign skills of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to make him and his followers totally forgettable. Republicans will triumph as long as the Dems keep pushing presidential candidates with weak campaign skills on us.

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                                          trewtrew@lemmy.today
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                                          This isn’t just Trump. People want to act like this is one man. The United States does not function. It will not get better after Trump leaves.

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