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GOG job listing for a Senior Software Engineer notes "Linux is the next major frontier"

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  • T tomalley8342@lemmy.world

    Job Requirements:

    Active use of AI tools in daily development workflows, and enthusiasm for helping the team increase adoption

    Nice to have:

    Passion for games and game preservation

    AI Mandatory, game preservation optional. Glad they got their priorities straight šŸ˜…

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    tempest@lemmy.ca
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    Honestly if part of their job is at all trying to get old shit to run on new operating systems AI is very useful for that task.

    Part of my job is keeping a 30 year old c++ application compiling and building on newer versions of Linux. LLMs have made this a far easier experience.

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    • Luminous5481 [they/them]L Luminous5481 [they/them]

      And as soon as your hypocrisy is called out, you resort to name-calling. Belligerence isn't an argument, even if you fail to think of one in its place.

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      the_q@lemmy.zip
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      What hypocrisy? You ARE an idiot.

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      • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

        It's not doomposting, it's realistic. LLMs will provide true aids to developers, and already do. They excel at formal languages, that's what they are designed for. I'm not talking about vibe coding, I'm talking formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

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        4am@lemmy.zip
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        formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

        None of that is ā€œAIā€ dumbass. Stop watering down the terminology.

        LLMs run from cloud data canters are the thing that everyone is against, and that is what the term ā€œAIā€ means. No one thinks IntelliSense is AI; no one thinks adding jslint to your CI pipeline is AI.

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        • B bootloop@sh.itjust.works

          I never said anything about artists. I don't think AI has much use in artistic endeavors. I'm talking about a software development job.

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          the_q@lemmy.zip
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          If it's the best tool then why is there so much push back from developers? Are they wrong and for some reason people like you are right? Is it not causing layoffs in that sector?

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          • T the_q@lemmy.zip

            What hypocrisy? You ARE an idiot.

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            Luminous5481 [they/them]
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            And you're incapable of formulating a good argument, and so you resort to whatever this is an attempt of, in order to have the last word and escape the embarrassment of knowing you can't articulate your own thoughts.

            Don't feel bad though. You're doing your best, and that's all that matters.

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            • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

              Both of those things put a lot of people out of work, but our economy adapted, and there was nothing to be gained by shaming the people embracing the technology that was clearly going to take over. I'm not convinced AI tools are that, but if they are, then nothing can stop it, and you're shaming a bunch of people who have literally no choice.

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              4am@lemmy.zip
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              Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

              But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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              • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

                None of that is ā€œAIā€ dumbass. Stop watering down the terminology.

                LLMs run from cloud data canters are the thing that everyone is against, and that is what the term ā€œAIā€ means. No one thinks IntelliSense is AI; no one thinks adding jslint to your CI pipeline is AI.

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                dukemirage@lemmy.world
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                I wasn’t talking about existing tools.

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                • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                  Whatā€˜s the good company in this context?

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                  XLE
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                  #68

                  Don't act so stupid, dude. You know what post you're in, or at least I hope you do.

                  If you want to claim that AI can magically do something that not even AI companies themselves can prove, then prove it. Ed Zitron has been begging AI evangelists like you to prove it for at least a year now. Otherwise, I call bullshit on your evangelism.

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                    stephen01king
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                    Neither does a locally run LLM model.

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                    • T the_q@lemmy.zip

                      If it's the best tool then why is there so much push back from developers? Are they wrong and for some reason people like you are right? Is it not causing layoffs in that sector?

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                      bootloop@sh.itjust.works
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                      There's no push back from the developers at my company or the developers that I interact with. We have been embracing it for the use cases that AI is good at. There is lots of manual effort that us software developers don't like doing that AI automates easily. I believe the mass layoffs that companies are doing are using AI as a convenient excuse in uncertain economic conditions.

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                        bootloop@sh.itjust.works
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                        Oof. I may never recover from this one.

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                        • T the_q@lemmy.zip

                          Is that what art is? Who doesn't consider digital artists to be artists? Point some out.

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                          stephen01king
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                          Here's one
                          Reddit Link

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                          • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                            Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

                            But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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                            ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                            It is the role of government to regulate those problems, but you can't uninvent a technology. As for me in my work, the most I can say is that I almost used AI once; a coworker did it for me before I could get to our company approved AI page. That, plus other companies mandating its usage (if it was really so great, it wouldn't be difficult to convince anyone to use it) is why I'm not confident that it is one of those inevitable technologies. But if it is, being a dick to people about it is stupid.

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                            • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                              Luddites didn't fear technology, they feared for the commoditisation of manual labour and they were dead on right as pauperism followed.

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                              stephen01king
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                              Which means calling some anti-AI people Luddites make perfect sense, no? Many of them have just as valid of a worry and fear as the Luddites did.

                              Of course, once the anti-AI sentiment goes mainstream, the amount of idiots who are irrationally anti-AI also increases, and these ones are not worth listening to, unlike the Luddites-like ones.

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                              • T The Octonaut

                                trust thsir own feelings over facts

                                Can I take a guess that you are not currently employed in the software development industry?

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                                XLE
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                                There you go, predictably making more baseless claims. If these things are supposedly so great, prove it.

                                And how did you hallucinate a misspelling in my comment? Maybe take a break from Elon's CSAM bot for a while.

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                                • X XLE

                                  Don't act so stupid, dude. You know what post you're in, or at least I hope you do.

                                  If you want to claim that AI can magically do something that not even AI companies themselves can prove, then prove it. Ed Zitron has been begging AI evangelists like you to prove it for at least a year now. Otherwise, I call bullshit on your evangelism.

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                                  dukemirage@lemmy.world
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                                  So Iā€˜m dragging down GOG?

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                                  • seathruS seathru

                                    Knowing what games are compatible and to what degree before purchasing them would make me happier.

                                    That's what https://www.protondb.com/ is good for.

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                                    ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                                    There's also a very generous 30 day refund policy, so if you're at all unsure, make sure it's working in that first month. I was pretty close to refunding The Alters, because that game just barely works via Proton, even with the right workarounds. Hell of a game though.

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                                    • X XLE

                                      No thanks AI bro.

                                      I don't buy your evidence-free praise of AI. And I don't buy your No True Scotsman fallacy.

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                                      tjsauce@lemmy.world
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                                      Hey I'm against corporate AI too, but when anyone can create a very basic ML program that runs locally with public domain data, eventually something both useful and ethical will emerge. It's good to be skeptical, but you don't have to be an AI bro to see that some specific tools might meet or exceed your standards.

                                      I don't like image or video generators, but the core tech is really useful for frame interpolation, a usecase that is not inherently controversial and badly needs improvement.

                                      Sorry to not-x-it's-y, but it's not about forcing the big tool into your workflow, it's about finding the 1001 little tools that work every time and collecting them. Or, wait for these tools to be consolidated.

                                      If I seem naive, It's cause I believe in reclaiming as much from tainted technology as possible.

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                                      • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                                        There's also a very generous 30 day refund policy, so if you're at all unsure, make sure it's working in that first month. I was pretty close to refunding The Alters, because that game just barely works via Proton, even with the right workarounds. Hell of a game though.

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                                        massive_bereavement
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                                        Being able to filter what works from what doesn't is a great way of weeding out possible disappointments.

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                                        • X XLE

                                          Don't act so stupid, dude. You know what post you're in, or at least I hope you do.

                                          If you want to claim that AI can magically do something that not even AI companies themselves can prove, then prove it. Ed Zitron has been begging AI evangelists like you to prove it for at least a year now. Otherwise, I call bullshit on your evangelism.

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                                          tjsauce@lemmy.world
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                                          AI is not a monolith; there are a lot of tools out there that you don't hear about because all the focus is on the large, corporate models that are meant to dehumanize. LLMs like Gemini, Grok, and ChatGPT are awful inventions that should be dismantled, but smaller ML projects found on GitHub shouldn't be lumped in, as the few that survive the bubble will stick around because they prove to be effective.

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