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  • NutomicN Nutomic

    We have an open issue for this: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5871

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    gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Very nice 🙂

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    • NutomicN Nutomic

      There is a "Join" button which goes directly to the registration page of the respective instance. Would it be clearer to rename this? Other than that I'm also happy to make improvements if you have concrete suggestions.

      Edit: Made a PR to rename Join to Sign Up: https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/pull/509

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      made3@sh.itjust.works
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      Well, I don't understand exactly how it works yet. My steps were to search in the Play Store for Lemmy, but there were multiple apps and all had different names. When I downloaded Boost now, there was not directly a register or sign up button. So it's probably an issue of Boost.

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      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

        I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

        the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

        So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

        edit: source for the graph

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        yessikg
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        #794

        I moved to Mbin, and I know quite a few people moved to Piefed, so you need to take that into account

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        • OpenStarsO OpenStars

          Hard agree there - growth at any costs should not be our motto, just improvement in terms of features for our own sakes, and if people enjoy that and want to join us, then that's wonderful as well.

          Though at one point we had 55k active users, and now we "only" have ~35k, so it seems like it has gone down over the years. Though to be fair, then it cycled back upwards, then downwards, then upwards again, then downwards - and yet always decreasing from that peak of 55k to where we are now, an overall negative trend. Even just six months ago we had 41k, a loss of ~15% now compared ot then (correspondingly, PieFed only has ~2k users total across all instances, so this loss of 6k for Lemmy was nowhere near balanced by a corresponding increase in PieFed as would be explained by a migration effect).

          But even if you are fully right, and this all reflects relative stagnation, that's still not a good thing imho, given the waves of Reddit migrants that we've seen coming here during the same time-period. It means that in roughly equal numbers to new people joining we are also losing a LOT of people, to parts unknown (perhaps they went back to Reddit, as many claim to have done in r/RedditAlternatives, or perhaps they moved instead to BlueSky?).

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          desentizised@lemmy.zip
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          #795

          I think that every platform will reach sort of an equilibrium during its lifetime. That relative "plateau" may last for months, years or even longer than that, but I think it will always be reached after its peak.

          imho the height of that peak and plateau speak to the overall popularity potential of the platform. Which is just that. A potential to attract masses. Whether maximizing this is a core goal is a different question.

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          • M made3@sh.itjust.works

            Well, I don't understand exactly how it works yet. My steps were to search in the Play Store for Lemmy, but there were multiple apps and all had different names. When I downloaded Boost now, there was not directly a register or sign up button. So it's probably an issue of Boost.

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            Nutomic
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            #796

            There is nothing preventing apps from providing a registration flow. For example Voyager has it. I suppose the problem is again which instance to choose for signup. You can discuss this in https://lemmy.world/c/boostforlemmy or https://lemmy.world/c/lemmyapps.

            As for multiple Lemmy apps being available: Most of the current Lemmy users came here in 2023 when Reddit locked down the API and killed third-party apps. Thats why a lot of apps are now available, and everyone can decide for himself which one he prefers.

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            • D dantel@programming.dev

              Well, you are technically correct. That would've made it easier for me. But I see a few problems with that:

              How are you gonna make sure people start doing this?

              And even more important: If people start doing this, it might actually harm the network IMHO.

              I personally knew that something like Lemmy exists at all because I saw multiple people on Reddit recommending it as an alternative to Reddit. Often enough that I was able to remember this after some time.

              Now if people recommended programming.dev in one sub, literature.cafe in another and discuss.online in a third - there is no way I would've remembered any of it and most likely wouldn't know that it belongs to the same network. Looking at them individually emphasizes the feeling that those are some ultra niche little sites with hardly any users on them.

              Just my gut feeling, anyway.

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              Nutomic
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              #797

              That is true. I made a post just now to gather suggestions for improving the website, please have a look and comment if you have any ideas: https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.ml/post/41719890

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              • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                they are separate, but not huge

                https://piefed.fediverse.observer/stats

                https://mbin.fediverse.observer/stats

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                Pazintach
                wrote last edited by
                #798

                They seem doing fine, especially PieFed.

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                • boiglenoight@lemmy.worldB boiglenoight@lemmy.world

                  I’ve seen a rise in calls to violence. This is not cool.

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                  stackpeek@lemmy.world
                  wrote last edited by
                  #799

                  I've seen too many of it. You can see how I rarely visit this website nowadays if you see my last activities. This is the main reason, things like this are where I put the line

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                  • I impassionata@lemmy.world

                    Can I ask a different, more difficult question?

                    Where are people going?

                    Lemmy Isn't Quite It? Mastodon is too formal. Blusky is too political.

                    Lemmy was a clone of Reddit. Not an improvement on it.

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                    hono4kami
                    wrote last edited by
                    #800

                    I went to Discord and Bluesky. Yeah Bluesky can be political + US centric as heck but thankfully other niches still have major presence... unlike Lemmy and the whole threadiverse.

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                    • hono4kamiH hono4kami

                      I went to Discord and Bluesky. Yeah Bluesky can be political + US centric as heck but thankfully other niches still have major presence... unlike Lemmy and the whole threadiverse.

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                      impassionata@lemmy.world
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                      #801

                      bluesky has the advantage of being an active leftist contingent, and the disadvantage of being an active leftist contingent

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