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GOG job listing for a Senior Software Engineer notes "Linux is the next major frontier"

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  • T the_q@lemmy.zip

    Yeah and typing "make a picture of a hot dog" into a text field makes one an artist...

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    village604@adultswim.fan
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    If making art is the process of getting something inspired in your head into the physical world, then it would make one an artist. AI would be a tool to achieve that.

    Many people still don't consider digital artists to be artists because they use tools that make it easier than physical art.

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    • T the_q@lemmy.zip

      Yeah and typing "make a picture of a hot dog" into a text field makes one an artist...

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      bootloop@sh.itjust.works
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      I'm not arguing that using AI makes me a software developer. I'm saying that as a software developer, I seek to use the best tools for the job, just like any other job.

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      • Luminous5481 [they/them]L Luminous5481 [they/them]

        When you say, “I’m just expressing an opinion, why are you doing the same”, then yes, it is denying them the same right. Don’t play games with me, we’re not the idiots you seem to think we are.

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        XLE
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        "We"

        Is Sam Altman in the room with you right now?

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        • B bootloop@sh.itjust.works

          I'm not arguing that using AI makes me a software developer. I'm saying that as a software developer, I seek to use the best tools for the job, just like any other job.

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          the_q@lemmy.zip
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          So artists, wanting to use what you describe as the best tool for the job, should just use AI? How even is AI the best tool? This is an inane and pointless argument with a drug addict defending heroin.

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          • X XLE

            We've got studies that show AI makes you feel more productive while you're actually less productive. And all you're offering is a feeling you feel. Get high on your own supply if you want, but don't drag down good companies with your evangelism.

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            dukemirage@lemmy.world
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            What‘s the good company in this context?

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            • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

              It's not doomposting, it's realistic. LLMs will provide true aids to developers, and already do. They excel at formal languages, that's what they are designed for. I'm not talking about vibe coding, I'm talking formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

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              HarkMahlberg
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              #52

              We had all of those things before AI and they worked just fine and didn't require 50 Exowatts of electricity to run.

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              • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                It's not doomposting, it's realistic. LLMs will provide true aids to developers, and already do. They excel at formal languages, that's what they are designed for. I'm not talking about vibe coding, I'm talking formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

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                Goodeye8
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                None of what you brought up as a positive are things an LLM does. Most of those things existed before the modern transformer-based LLMs were even a thing.

                LLM-s are glorified text prediction engines and nothing about their nature makes them excel at formal languages. It doesn't know any rules. It doesn't have any internal logic. For example if the training data consistently exhibits the same flawed piece of code then an LLM will spit out the same flawed piece of code, because that's the most likely continuation of its current "train of thought". You would have to fine-tune the model around all those flaws and then hope some combination of a prompt won't lead the model back into that flawed data.

                I've used LLMs to generate SQL, which according to you is something they should excel at, and I've had to fix literal syntax errors that would prevent the statement from executing. A regular SQL linter would instantly pick up that the SQL is wrong but an LLM can't pick up those errors because an LLM does not understand the syntax.

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                • V village604@adultswim.fan

                  If making art is the process of getting something inspired in your head into the physical world, then it would make one an artist. AI would be a tool to achieve that.

                  Many people still don't consider digital artists to be artists because they use tools that make it easier than physical art.

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                  the_q@lemmy.zip
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                  #54

                  Is that what art is? Who doesn't consider digital artists to be artists? Point some out.

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                  • T tomalley8342@lemmy.world

                    Job Requirements:

                    Active use of AI tools in daily development workflows, and enthusiasm for helping the team increase adoption

                    Nice to have:

                    Passion for games and game preservation

                    AI Mandatory, game preservation optional. Glad they got their priorities straight 😅

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                    HarkMahlberg
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                    Here's the secret: talk a big game about being pro AI in the interview, then just don't use it on the job. What are they gonna do, grab your hands and put your mouse cursor on the Copilot button?

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                    • Luminous5481 [they/them]L Luminous5481 [they/them]

                      When you say, “I’m just expressing an opinion, why are you doing the same”, then yes, it is denying them the same right. Don’t play games with me, we’re not the idiots you seem to think we are.

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                      the_q@lemmy.zip
                      wrote last edited by
                      #56

                      Buddy, you're a bigger idiot than I think you are.

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                        seathru
                        wrote last edited by seathru@quokk.au
                        #57

                        Knowing what games are compatible and to what degree before purchasing them would make me happier.

                        That's what https://www.protondb.com/ is good for.

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                        • T the_q@lemmy.zip

                          So artists, wanting to use what you describe as the best tool for the job, should just use AI? How even is AI the best tool? This is an inane and pointless argument with a drug addict defending heroin.

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                          bootloop@sh.itjust.works
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                          #58

                          I never said anything about artists. I don't think AI has much use in artistic endeavors. I'm talking about a software development job.

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                          • T the_q@lemmy.zip

                            Buddy, you're a bigger idiot than I think you are.

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                            Luminous5481 [they/them]
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                            And as soon as your hypocrisy is called out, you resort to name-calling. Belligerence isn't an argument, even if you fail to think of one in its place.

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                            • X XLE

                              "We"

                              Is Sam Altman in the room with you right now?

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                              Luminous5481 [they/them]
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                              You should really try again, I think.

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                              • T tomalley8342@lemmy.world

                                Job Requirements:

                                Active use of AI tools in daily development workflows, and enthusiasm for helping the team increase adoption

                                Nice to have:

                                Passion for games and game preservation

                                AI Mandatory, game preservation optional. Glad they got their priorities straight 😅

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                                tempest@lemmy.ca
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                                Honestly if part of their job is at all trying to get old shit to run on new operating systems AI is very useful for that task.

                                Part of my job is keeping a 30 year old c++ application compiling and building on newer versions of Linux. LLMs have made this a far easier experience.

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                                • Luminous5481 [they/them]L Luminous5481 [they/them]

                                  And as soon as your hypocrisy is called out, you resort to name-calling. Belligerence isn't an argument, even if you fail to think of one in its place.

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                                  the_q@lemmy.zip
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                                  What hypocrisy? You ARE an idiot.

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                                  • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                                    It's not doomposting, it's realistic. LLMs will provide true aids to developers, and already do. They excel at formal languages, that's what they are designed for. I'm not talking about vibe coding, I'm talking formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

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                                    4am@lemmy.zip
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                                    formatters, style guides, linters, boilerplates, translation, configuration etc.

                                    None of that is “AI” dumbass. Stop watering down the terminology.

                                    LLMs run from cloud data canters are the thing that everyone is against, and that is what the term “AI” means. No one thinks IntelliSense is AI; no one thinks adding jslint to your CI pipeline is AI.

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                                    • B bootloop@sh.itjust.works

                                      I never said anything about artists. I don't think AI has much use in artistic endeavors. I'm talking about a software development job.

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                                      the_q@lemmy.zip
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                                      If it's the best tool then why is there so much push back from developers? Are they wrong and for some reason people like you are right? Is it not causing layoffs in that sector?

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                                      • T the_q@lemmy.zip

                                        What hypocrisy? You ARE an idiot.

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                                        Luminous5481 [they/them]
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                                        And you're incapable of formulating a good argument, and so you resort to whatever this is an attempt of, in order to have the last word and escape the embarrassment of knowing you can't articulate your own thoughts.

                                        Don't feel bad though. You're doing your best, and that's all that matters.

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                                        • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                                          Both of those things put a lot of people out of work, but our economy adapted, and there was nothing to be gained by shaming the people embracing the technology that was clearly going to take over. I'm not convinced AI tools are that, but if they are, then nothing can stop it, and you're shaming a bunch of people who have literally no choice.

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                                          4am@lemmy.zip
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                                          Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

                                          But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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