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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • I ilandar@lemmy.today

    All that said, I don’t think the last season was terrible. I expected it to be a lot worse than it was. The actual plot and ending of the story, I thought were perfectly mediocre and fine. It was ruined by the dialogue.

    I agree with you, it was better than I expected (although I had extremely low expectations to be fair). The most miserable parts of the final season were the long "emotional" character moments with the most juvenile/amateur/unrealistic writing. I don't skip as a rule, but I really felt like fast forwarding through some of that stuff, it was so cringe.

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    [object Object]
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    Pro tip: VLC has the option of running the video at a speed of choice, where 110% is good for pretty much everything. I wish I knew of this feature when I watched through ‘Harry Potters’ and the ‘Matrix’ trilogy.

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    • B brucethemoose@lemmy.world

      Lemmy/Piefed is an echo chamber, and has some structural issues like Reddit. But there's no algo, no advertising, nor constant phone notifications.

      And, uh, no billionaires warping "open" discourse.

      To me, it's a time black hole, worse than old forums. But it's not nearly as bad as (say) Discord or anything Facebook owned.

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      #109

      nor constant phone notifications.

      Until emails broke on our instance I used to get email notifications for replies, which would send a notification to my phone, which would get forwarded to my smart watch.
      So, uh, yeah.

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      • corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksC corkyskog@sh.itjust.works

        I wouldn't have my phone out to begin with Netflix if you didn't start adding ads.

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        I guess that's why ‘Severance’ is full of padding shots with nothing happening in them.

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        • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

          I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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          [object Object]
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          #111

          Films maybe, but Netflix appears to pad shows' runtime without shame.

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          • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

            You tell me:

            -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

            -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

            -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

            -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

            I think not.

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            explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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            I think if no public bathrooms are available, then we should be allowed to urinate in public.

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            • SeductiveTortoiseS SeductiveTortoise

              Some YouTube channels do this and I started to hide them in the recommendations because it pisses me off so much.

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              rhombus
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              The constant restating on Youtube is to pad out their video and get more ad spots. I also immediately dislike and hide them because of that.

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              • E evol@lemmy.today

                I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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                rhombus
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                #114

                Often it’s a localization issue too. Japanese dialogue doesn’t translate easily to English, it’s usually longer and has more layers of formality that English can’t express. And they often aren’t allowed to cut the content, so they have to make the English super wordy and explainy to match the long winded mouth flaps.

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                • C criss_cross@lemmy.world

                  SEO was a mistake.

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                  rhombus
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                  Also the more repetition the more room on the page for ad spots. Same reason so many Youtubers restate the same shit almost verbatim over and over and over; it pads the video so Youtube can cram in more ad spots.

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                    lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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                    Bad movies need to do this. You know, the average movie Netflix signs off on.

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                    • P portifornia@lemmy.world

                      I think you're both right, somehow.

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                      rhombus
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                      #117

                      Less movement in the main plot, but more unnecessary side plot shit that is often unresolved by the end.

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                        ambientdread@lemmy.world
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                        #118

                        Or we are on our phones because the movies repeat their themes over and over and over again

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                        • R rhombus

                          The constant restating on Youtube is to pad out their video and get more ad spots. I also immediately dislike and hide them because of that.

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                          Same here, I know why they do it, but they will lose me as a viewer.

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                          • edible_funkE edible_funk

                            I disagree with basically that whole interpretation. And the ending was explicitly hopeful. I think you just took it personal that what you thought was gonna happen didn't.

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                            DeliciousDoorknob
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                            What's hopeful about El disappearing from everyone's life? I'm hardly the only one who sees it this way.

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                            • A ambientdread@lemmy.world

                              Or we are on our phones because the movies repeat their themes over and over and over again

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                              gustofwind@lemmy.world
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                              i dunno, most people i see watch netflix seem to use it as just another mode of stimulus because they need to always be completely inundated with flashing screens at all times to feel calm

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                              • R rhombus

                                Often it’s a localization issue too. Japanese dialogue doesn’t translate easily to English, it’s usually longer and has more layers of formality that English can’t express. And they often aren’t allowed to cut the content, so they have to make the English super wordy and explainy to match the long winded mouth flaps.

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                                evol@lemmy.today
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                                Yeah I also didn't think of the translation part too, good point

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                                • D DeliciousDoorknob

                                  What's hopeful about El disappearing from everyone's life? I'm hardly the only one who sees it this way.

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                                  edible_funk
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                                  #123

                                  The fact that she's "dead" means she's finally free, and I'm pretty sure Mike's speech about what if she's still alive was a strong hint that eventually he'd find her again. Every character got the best possible outcome all considered.

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                                    but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                                    Sorry Damon but Thats just the world now, we all watch while on our phones when we stream and you aren’t going back ever

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                                    • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      Atomization means to atomize, your thinking of automation or automated.

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                                      DylanMc6 [any, any]
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                                      I mean the atomization of society

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                                      • S switorik@lemmy.zip

                                        This is what kills any articles on the web. The first three paragraphs repeat the question you're looking to get answered and the last paragraph vaguely answers it.

                                        I feel like an old person now but I've started watching movies from the 90s/2000s and I can't believe how much worse movies have become over the years.

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                                        There are some standout exceptions to that trend but it is a depressing trajectory for sure

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                                        • S [object Object]

                                          I guess that's why ‘Severance’ is full of padding shots with nothing happening in them.

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                                          gathorall@lemmy.world
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                                          Most are even marked with ominous elevator music for your convenience.

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