we need more users
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Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn't realize there's another option to the popular toxic trash fires.
I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.
"It looks like it's just people talking about computers."
And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.
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This is only looking at active users.
If we look at total users and servers across all Fediverse software you can see both are up.
I personally am not interested in making the active user count always go up. The Fediverse maybe better then Silicon Valley, but the health problems being on the internet too much is still there.
Active users are what matter. Dormant accounts aren't doing anything.
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Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn't realize there's another option to the popular toxic trash fires.
i actually did this like 2 days ago and the guy agreed to at least try it out. people just need to talk about it and be honest about what is good/bad about the current state
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This is only looking at active users.
If we look at total users and servers across all Fediverse software you can see both are up.
I personally am not interested in making the active user count always go up. The Fediverse maybe better then Silicon Valley, but the health problems being on the internet too much is still there.
Relatively there are less US users here compared to Reddit ("only" 50%). Seems the whole demographics is different too.
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I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.
"It looks like it's just people talking about computers."
And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.
To be completely honest, Lemmy is kinda dead outside the politics subs and some of the tech ones. When I deleted my reddit account I came here and joined some of the communities I was using reddit for: Pathfinder 2e, RPG, memes, anime. Out of all of them I only see an occasional post from memes while the other ones are literal ghost towns.
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I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.
the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.
So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.
edit: source for the graph
No search is THE deal breaker for lots.
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No search is THE deal breaker for lots.
There is a search though?
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I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.
"It looks like it's just people talking about computers."
And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.
We need comments, that is the problem. Small communities don't get any positive feedback via engagement, which causes them to die as the owner/sole poster feels like no one cares.
Simply link dumping (effectively what most posts are on content aggregators) is the easy part. Seeing even 1 comment inclines someone to open up the post to read the comment, which makes them in turn likely to reply and it builds from there to a hot/active conversation.
If you can just aim to write that first comment on or two posts a day in more niche communities, it will help achieve growth.
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I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.
"It looks like it's just people talking about computers."
And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.
Agreed. If news headlines and Linux are your jam you're all set already. That's enough to keep me coming back but I aggressively join new communities as they're made to support them. I only post rarely though, do I only do so much as of now
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We need comments, that is the problem. Small communities don't get any positive feedback via engagement, which causes them to die as the owner/sole poster feels like no one cares.
Simply link dumping (effectively what most posts are on content aggregators) is the easy part. Seeing even 1 comment inclines someone to open up the post to read the comment, which makes them in turn likely to reply and it builds from there to a hot/active conversation.
If you can just aim to write that first comment on or two posts a day in more niche communities, it will help achieve growth.
Now this I do and I'm glad it helps
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I would say Lemmy's search is better than Reddit's
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I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.
the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.
So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.
edit: source for the graph
I have faith in the EU's opensource policy. Things will change. We're in no rush.
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Now this I do and I'm glad it helps
Thank you for your service o7
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IDK if there's a way to tell on Lemmy whether an account is dormant. I haven't posted or commented on reddit in years, but I still log in and talk to people over PM. So my account there isn't dormant, but also has no visible activity.
Anyway someone further up described a big Lemmy problem, which is link dumping. I think on reddit, moderators tend to delete those, unless the poster makes some kind of effort to at least bypass clickbait and say what the link is about.
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I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.
the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.
So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.
edit: source for the graph
The process through which we get more users is that something material changes in current Tirefire user's life that puts them over the threshold needed to look for alternative. Then they look. Lemmy is the obvious Reddit alternative, it's well indexed in search engines. Then they try it. If the quality of content is decent, there's a decent chance they stay. They know the quantity won't be as high, that's the major reason they haven't switched to begin with. So for this process to keep functioning, we need to maintain the quality.
Of course we should also suggest Lemmy, but probably when asked or otherwise appropriate. Or else it may have the opposite effect that naked shilling often has.
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To be completely honest, Lemmy is kinda dead outside the politics subs and some of the tech ones. When I deleted my reddit account I came here and joined some of the communities I was using reddit for: Pathfinder 2e, RPG, memes, anime. Out of all of them I only see an occasional post from memes while the other ones are literal ghost towns.
Shameless plug.
If you are into computer RPGs (CRPGs), we have a relatively active community:
!crpg@lemmy.world
The JRPG community is also pretty active:
!jrpg@lemmy.zip
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can you please share the sticker design?
then others can use them too
let me cook.
will be posting it on here.
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Shameless plug.
If you are into computer RPGs (CRPGs), we have a relatively active community:
!crpg@lemmy.world
The JRPG community is also pretty active:
!jrpg@lemmy.zip
they should link to each other in the sidebar so people know how to find them
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I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.
the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.
So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.
edit: source for the graph
I’m happy to promote it. I tried to get a few non-technical people to check it out. They felt it was too complicated. I’ve shared it with tech friends and coworkers who use Reddit. They’re aware of Lemmy to varying degrees, and are not enthused about moving to another platform despite hating Reddit.
I think it’s because despite Lemmy being a great alternative, it is more complicated and lacks the user base that users of other social media platforms have.
Bluesky is marginally more complicated than Twitter, but compared to Mastodon it is user friendly. Bluesky worked to create a dedicated, easy to use app that most users use.
Bluesky existed for a while before experiencing explosive growth. This occurred during moments of controversy with X. Bluesky capitalized on these moments, with champions on both platforms that led their followers to change, and there were mechanisms in place to bootstrap a user’s feed with the followers and topics that they had in the other place.
I think Lemmy needs to follow this model. There needs to be a Lemmy app that has a user experience as similar as possible with the Reddit app. It also needs champions that have main stream recognition (George Takei, Mark Hamill, etc.) that can be willing to make noise about switching from Reddit to Lemmy when the next controversy occurs. Repeat with more and more promotion by this evangelists, and Lemmy could grow.
