we need more users
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Wow. This is top notch cringe.
Everybody is stupid except me
Not everyone, but definitely you.
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Fascists. Authoritarians. Whatever you want to call them. I’ll explain. They submitted a proposal to ban all “Zionists or Zionist apologists” and I objected on the grounds that it is, objectively, the very fascism they were denouncing. They banned me simply for suggesting this. That’s what I’m talking about.
Banning fascism isn't fascism though. This doesn't make any sense.
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Banning fascism isn't fascism though. This doesn't make any sense.
Banning ideas and opinions is not banning fascism. But let’s start over. First, they banned me. All I did was say that banning people for having the opinion “Israel should exist as an entity” is authoritarian. I wasn’t even defending Israel, which, like I said, people should be allowed to do as part of normal freedom of speech.
Second, I didn’t even say anything extreme, like “you should be hanged for treason!” or some such nonsense. I said “you have the right to ban people for whatever you want since it’s your instance, but I think that’s fascist if you do so.” And they banned me. Do you think that’s even remotely normal behavior?
Banning people for their behavior and conduct is perfectly reasonable. Also, if some Israel defender comes in and says “I don’t care how many children need to be killed, it’s worth it,” then I think you have every right to ban them. Advocating murder is crazy shit. But simply saying “Israel has a right to exist” or something similar as being ban worthy? That’s absolute ghoulish authoritarianism. There’s no such thing as “banning fascism” because this is just a discussion forum.
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We got tankies on here, though. Not much better.
Too bad centrists think everyone with any criticism whatsoever of anything they do is a tankie.
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Oh, I don't think I've witnessed one here.
You probably haven't. It's just a word centrists throw around when they want to defederate from instances they don't like for being to their left.
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Too bad centrists think everyone with any criticism whatsoever of anything they do is a tankie.
Haven't seen that happen yet.
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Haven't seen that happen yet.
That speaks more to your lack of criticism.
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and now PieFed supports moving posts! https://piefed.social/c/piefed_meta/p/1653370/piefed-1-5-is-released-move-posts-upload-video-files-better-chat-and-more
So Piefed admins/mods could consolidate communities by moving the posts before deleting the community
oh that's a great feature
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Oh hey, it's worth noting that that particular screengrab is taken out of context and was deliberately intended to make me appear that way. I even concede that one can disagree with Marx and Engels, my point was more against those who claim to agree with them but strongly disagree with the socialist market economy of China. I oppose anyone that tries to treat theory like gospel, that's why I usually don't reference theory directly unless it's directly relevent like it was in this case.
That's the thing, people propagandize about us as well, like the MeanwhileOnGrad crowd that took that snippet out of context. You're doing the same here, by extrapolating an entire behavior of me from a single, out-of-context snippet hosted in a Nazi bar. What's important is that we actually pay attention to what others are saying, because everyone is guilty of thinking they are correct.
But you are a tankie, cowbee. Why do you keep denying this?
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Fair enough. Just grabbed one of the first images a search threw. Sorry if it was out of context or portrayed you unfairly. And of course people propagandize about you too. Anyone with a strong enough voice will get bad faith critiques thrown against them and many will be with political intent.
I do think this is a fair example to exemplify the point I was trying to make, though. Your quote being out of context does not nullify its dychotomical political intent and makes my point stronger.
Propaganda is hard to identify when you're predisposed to believe it, it's everywhere and people propagate it without even noticing.
Don't let Cowbee propagandise you, that's what he's known for, even Tankies celebrate him for it.
He doesn't argue in good faith, either, don't believe such nonsense. Just have a look at all the other community posts about his extremism, bigotry and hatred. He's a Tankie full and through and one of the major reasons why Lemmy is destined to fail.
For example, I humbly ask you to challenge Cowbee on his views of North Korea and Putin. You'll find he is openly supportive of both.
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Posted as a reply because this will certainly upset many but...
On the instance wars:
I constantly see nonsense about the horrors of the '.ML' instance, and 'hexbear', primarily from 'Lemmy.world' users, but I have never once actually come across these horrors.
Hexbear is just a troll instance, ala 'cumtown'.
To an outside observer, '.world' users seem to be US propagandists intent on wrecking the platform. "Tankies this, cowbee that", when I've never seen a cowbee post that wasn't entirely reasonable.
And the vast majority of 'tankies' are just people who criticise the US rightfully while not sharing the same breathe to criticize China.
Ngl, fuck Russia, the US and Russia are the greatest evils. China is not anywhere near the same level. You can praise elements of a foreign state without being a 'tankie'.It's the same thought terminating cliche cult bullshit that all right wingers do. And it seems to come from Americans being upset their myopic views aren't babied by people who literally specifically went to an instance to avoid them?
Idk I'm not a user of any of the three, but I've only ever had an issue with lemmy.world users in the past, as a UK citizen who is far from a tankie.
Explodingheads was also self-proclaimed a troll instance. Just because they fall back on 'It's just a joke!" doesn't make what they say or do okay.
I recommend you check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for a deep look at Tankies and how prevalent they are throughout Lemmy.
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Don't let Cowbee propagandise you, that's what he's known for, even Tankies celebrate him for it.
He doesn't argue in good faith, either, don't believe such nonsense. Just have a look at all the other community posts about his extremism, bigotry and hatred. He's a Tankie full and through and one of the major reasons why Lemmy is destined to fail.
For example, I humbly ask you to challenge Cowbee on his views of North Korea and Putin. You'll find he is openly supportive of both.
I know @Cowbee@lemmy.ml doesn't argue in good faith. You're not arguing in good faith either. If you wanna internet argument fight the dude, I just pinged him for you, but before you do I suggest both of you consider the words of mustache man: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not himself become a monster."
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I know @Cowbee@lemmy.ml doesn't argue in good faith. You're not arguing in good faith either. If you wanna internet argument fight the dude, I just pinged him for you, but before you do I suggest both of you consider the words of mustache man: "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not himself become a monster."
Honestly I don't think there's such a thing as good faith when it comes to political discussions on the internet. I'm not going to argue with him either, I don't consider it worthy of my time.
What's good faith to you? To me, it's admitting mistakes.
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Honestly I don't think there's such a thing as good faith when it comes to political discussions on the internet. I'm not going to argue with him either, I don't consider it worthy of my time.
What's good faith to you? To me, it's admitting mistakes.
To me, good faith is the genuine will to understand and/or convey ideas fairly and honestly.
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To me, good faith is the genuine will to understand and/or convey ideas fairly and honestly.
I agree, but I don't think fairness or honesty really exists anymore. Or rather, there's no incentive for people to engage in such.
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Now that you point it out, I think that's exactly it. I'm glad people like you are still around there.
according to the new users I'm an ignorant fascist hateful bigot nazi, etc. because I'm not going around being angry and making every issue into a binary choice of good vs evil.
woohoo! but yeah there are still plenty of good faith smart people who articulate subtle, empathic, and thoughtful commentary.
what sucks is watching those comments get removed by idiot mods because they don't fit the narrative of good vs evil. asklemmy was really dope until about two months ago. I got banned in a thread about trans issues, for having an opinion that individual athletic orgs should get to determine what they qualify as woman or man in competition... and my comment was removed and i was banned for 'hate speech'. saw several other really nuanced and subtle takes be removed as well.
most of these comments were heavily upvoted in the first few hours of the thread. About a day after the original thread/comments, a bunch of angry dipshits came into the really throughout discussions and just start plastering one liners to all of us about how hateful and fascist we were and probably dog-pile reported on them. My comment was a reply to a top comment, and got about a dozen angry insulting replies, and then it was removed and i was banned, 2-3 days after the comment was posted.
apparently the mod opinion was the federal government should abolish all gender in sports and anything that wasn't an overarching overreaching overbearing type of 'solution' was hateful and evil.
but in the eyes of bullies, everyone else is bullying them by existing and being different than them.
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I agree, but I don't think fairness or honesty really exists anymore. Or rather, there's no incentive for people to engage in such.
There is no tangible external incentive.
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There is no tangible external incentive.
I'd say be the change you want to see, but it seems pointless. Maybe once trump and putin carks it
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I'd say be the change you want to see, but it seems pointless. Maybe once trump and putin carks it
Doing what you believe is right is never pointless imo.
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Interestingly each community shows up kind of like a user in Mastodon.
I think hashtags should be communities but I can see from an ActivityPub POV that would be difficult to dynamically create. Worth while though.
It also makes sense that a mastodon user should kind of look like a community or a maybe user in Lemmy but I personally don't like following people and much rather follow topics.
Maybe there's only underlying posts and users to the fediverse, and the difference between Lemmy and Mastodon is mostly how they're organized and presented in the feed
![Cowbee [he/they]](https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/c18ce632-5fb5-4888-8226-3dc55a07acc4.jpeg "Cowbee [he/they]"){kind=avatar}
