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  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

    I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

    the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

    So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

    edit: source for the graph

    heyWhatsayH This user is from outside of this forum
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    heyWhatsay
    wrote last edited by
    #17

    Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn't realize there's another option to the popular toxic trash fires.

    die4ever@retrolemmy.comD L D F hanrahanH 8 Replies Last reply
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    • VogiV Vogi

      I was meaning to buy a bunch of sticker for all sort of cool stuff I support (lemmy/fedi being one of those things) and stick it around the city. Know its not much, but its fun! 🙂

      gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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      gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
      wrote last edited by
      #18

      can you please share the sticker design? 🙂

      then others can use them too

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      • green_red_blackG green_red_black

        This is only looking at active users.

        If we look at total users and servers across all Fediverse software you can see both are up.

        I personally am not interested in making the active user count always go up. The Fediverse maybe better then Silicon Valley, but the health problems being on the internet too much is still there.

        die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
        die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
        die4ever@retrolemmy.com
        wrote last edited by
        #19

        I don't see why we should consider accounts that haven't been used in 6 months, we're talking about content contributions (posts/comments/votes) and those inactive accounts aren't doing anything for that

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        • mesaM mesa

          I wonder if we can combine the related fediverse services (like piefed, which is getting more and more traction lately), mbin/kbin, and others.

          Because according to this graph I dont exist for example. Im not a "lemmy" user, but I sure interact with a lot of lemmy.

          There is also a number of instances that are chosing not to give their numbers anymore either because of AI scrappers getting really aggressive, or because they just dont want to be seen by the different tracking software out there.

          die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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          die4ever@retrolemmy.com
          wrote last edited by
          #20

          they are separate, but not huge

          https://piefed.fediverse.observer/stats

          https://mbin.fediverse.observer/stats

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          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

            I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

            the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

            So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

            edit: source for the graph

            tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
            tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
            tropicaldingdong@lemmy.world
            wrote last edited by
            #21

            Networks are almost always about quantity over quality.

            OpenStarsO 1 Reply Last reply
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            • heyWhatsayH heyWhatsay

              Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn't realize there's another option to the popular toxic trash fires.

              die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
              die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
              die4ever@retrolemmy.com
              wrote last edited by
              #22

              and if someone had a bad experience with Lemmy you can't force them to give it another chance, but you could tell them about PieFed

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              • heyWhatsayH heyWhatsay

                Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn't realize there's another option to the popular toxic trash fires.

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                lost_my_mind@lemmy.world
                wrote last edited by
                #23

                I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.

                "It looks like it's just people talking about computers."

                And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.

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                • green_red_blackG green_red_black

                  This is only looking at active users.

                  If we look at total users and servers across all Fediverse software you can see both are up.

                  I personally am not interested in making the active user count always go up. The Fediverse maybe better then Silicon Valley, but the health problems being on the internet too much is still there.

                  missingnoM This user is from outside of this forum
                  missingnoM This user is from outside of this forum
                  missingno
                  wrote last edited by
                  #24

                  Active users are what matter. Dormant accounts aren't doing anything.

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                  • EndmakerE Endmaker

                    Or Bluesky / Threads vs Mastodon

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #25

                    I'm doing my part! After the recent "great addition" to Twitter (AI image edit button on every image posted by anyone anywhere), lots of artists were looking for alternatives. I spammed "switch to Mastodon" non-stop.

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                    • heyWhatsayH heyWhatsay

                      Just talk up Lemmy, the issue is most people doesn't realize there's another option to the popular toxic trash fires.

                      D This user is from outside of this forum
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                      dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
                      wrote last edited by
                      #26

                      i actually did this like 2 days ago and the guy agreed to at least try it out. people just need to talk about it and be honest about what is good/bad about the current state

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                      • green_red_blackG green_red_black

                        This is only looking at active users.

                        If we look at total users and servers across all Fediverse software you can see both are up.

                        I personally am not interested in making the active user count always go up. The Fediverse maybe better then Silicon Valley, but the health problems being on the internet too much is still there.

                        Riddick3001H This user is from outside of this forum
                        Riddick3001H This user is from outside of this forum
                        Riddick3001
                        wrote last edited by howru68@lemmy.world
                        #27

                        Relatively there are less US users here compared to Reddit ("only" 50%). Seems the whole demographics is different too.

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                        • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world

                          I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.

                          "It looks like it's just people talking about computers."

                          And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.

                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                          K This user is from outside of this forum
                          kirp123@lemmy.world
                          wrote last edited by
                          #28

                          To be completely honest, Lemmy is kinda dead outside the politics subs and some of the tech ones. When I deleted my reddit account I came here and joined some of the communities I was using reddit for: Pathfinder 2e, RPG, memes, anime. Out of all of them I only see an occasional post from memes while the other ones are literal ghost towns.

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                          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                            I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                            the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                            So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                            edit: source for the graph

                            F This user is from outside of this forum
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                            f2sfljlhdttz@lemmy.world
                            wrote last edited by
                            #29

                            No search is THE deal breaker for lots.

                            S gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • F f2sfljlhdttz@lemmy.world

                              No search is THE deal breaker for lots.

                              S This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Skavau
                              wrote last edited by
                              #30

                              There is a search though?

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                              • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world

                                I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.

                                "It looks like it's just people talking about computers."

                                And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.

                                DeceptichumD This user is from outside of this forum
                                DeceptichumD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Deceptichum
                                wrote last edited by deceptichum@quokk.au
                                #31

                                We need comments, that is the problem. Small communities don't get any positive feedback via engagement, which causes them to die as the owner/sole poster feels like no one cares.

                                Simply link dumping (effectively what most posts are on content aggregators) is the easy part. Seeing even 1 comment inclines someone to open up the post to read the comment, which makes them in turn likely to reply and it builds from there to a hot/active conversation.

                                If you can just aim to write that first comment on or two posts a day in more niche communities, it will help achieve growth.

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                                • L lost_my_mind@lemmy.world

                                  I've told people about Lemmy before. I got the same reaction everytime.

                                  "It looks like it's just people talking about computers."

                                  And their interest dies. Which tells me there needs to be more diversity of active communities. No one wants to come to a small platform, create a new dead community, and talk to themself.

                                  F This user is from outside of this forum
                                  F This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Fluffy Kitty Cat
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #32

                                  Agreed. If news headlines and Linux are your jam you're all set already. That's enough to keep me coming back but I aggressively join new communities as they're made to support them. I only post rarely though, do I only do so much as of now

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                                  • DeceptichumD Deceptichum

                                    We need comments, that is the problem. Small communities don't get any positive feedback via engagement, which causes them to die as the owner/sole poster feels like no one cares.

                                    Simply link dumping (effectively what most posts are on content aggregators) is the easy part. Seeing even 1 comment inclines someone to open up the post to read the comment, which makes them in turn likely to reply and it builds from there to a hot/active conversation.

                                    If you can just aim to write that first comment on or two posts a day in more niche communities, it will help achieve growth.

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                                    F This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Fluffy Kitty Cat
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #33

                                    Now this I do and I'm glad it helps

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                                    • S Skavau

                                      There is a search though?

                                      die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      die4ever@retrolemmy.comD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #34

                                      I would say Lemmy's search is better than Reddit's

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                                      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                        I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                                        the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                                        So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                                        edit: source for the graph

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                                        atro_city
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #35

                                        I have faith in the EU's opensource policy. Things will change. We're in no rush.

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                                        • F Fluffy Kitty Cat

                                          Now this I do and I'm glad it helps

                                          DeceptichumD This user is from outside of this forum
                                          DeceptichumD This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Deceptichum
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #36

                                          Thank you for your service o7

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