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  • The Bard in GreenT The Bard in Green

    I have kind of the opposite experience. When I go on reddit, I feel depressed and angry, when I go on Lemmy I laugh and learn stuff. Probably the communities I subscribe to though. I get political and regional news from Reddit (and don't have an actual reddit account anymore). I get funny science and Star Trek memes from Lemmy and cyber security and tech news.

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    frustrated@lemmy.world
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    Where are you that you are having these experiences? I find Lemmy hard to explore.

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    • OpenStarsO OpenStars

      I doubt the latter - we are too small - but many are definitely alts for sure. Lemmy's lack of federation for moderator reports (either coming soon or only came recently I forget which) made that necessary.

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      softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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      .ml and hexbear are literal troll farms

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      • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

        Is the "socialism" in the room with us right now?

        I think you might have a different understanding of socialism than modern socialists. Yours seems more like a 1950s flavor of "socialism"

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        I have the same understanding of socialism as Marx, Engels, Lenin, and those who uphold them today. Cuba, Vietnam, the PRC, etc are all examples of socialism. Socialism is, at its simplest, public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes in control of the state.

        Who are these "modern socialists?" Do you have a country you can point to, or perhaps an organization? Why are these "modern" socialists as compared to what I uphold?

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        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

          What do you think of a content filter setup when you register the account like this:

          Effectively, when you click "no politics", it blocks the !News@lemmy.world, !politics@lemmy.world, !politicalmemes@lemmy.world, !pravda_news@news.abolish.capital communities and such.

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          nao@sh.itjust.works
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          What does it do when you select the middle option?

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          • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

            Thank you for signing into your main account to reply to me.

            If your ideology is valid you shouldn't have to make alts to force people to read your comments

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            Again, I'm not @Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com. You can check @vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net's account and see that he writes in a similar style that is distinct from mine. While flattering, I'd actually appreciate if comrade vovchik_ilich didn't use my username as an alt-name, even if it isn't the same, because I don't like the idea of a cult of personality around me and because it can lead to confusion, like here.

            I have 3 accounts: @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, @Cowbee@hexbear.net, and @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml. I used to have a lemm.ee account that I abandoned before making my Lemmy.ml account, made my Hexbear alt a long while after, and a Grad account very recently. I only use Lemmy.ml when interacting with any federated instance, and scroll Grad and Hexbear locally.

            All that being said, you have no evidence that I have multiple accounts, nor can you actually argue against the points being made. This is just conspiracy-theory nonsense.

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            • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

              Thank you for signing into your main account to reply to me.

              If your ideology is valid you shouldn't have to make alts to force people to read your comments

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              cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com
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              I don't make alt accounts to force anyone to do anything. I've explained you that Hexbear is a safe space without transphobia of Zionism, and I'm glad it's mostly defederated and I'm not exposed to cognitohazard of such levels.

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              • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                Again, I'm not @Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com. You can check @vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net's account and see that he writes in a similar style that is distinct from mine. While flattering, I'd actually appreciate if comrade vovchik_ilich didn't use my username as an alt-name, even if it isn't the same, because I don't like the idea of a cult of personality around me and because it can lead to confusion, like here.

                I have 3 accounts: @Cowbee@lemmy.ml, @Cowbee@hexbear.net, and @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml. I used to have a lemm.ee account that I abandoned before making my Lemmy.ml account, made my Hexbear alt a long while after, and a Grad account very recently. I only use Lemmy.ml when interacting with any federated instance, and scroll Grad and Hexbear locally.

                All that being said, you have no evidence that I have multiple accounts, nor can you actually argue against the points being made. This is just conspiracy-theory nonsense.

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                cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com
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                Oh hey buddy, sorry, I didnt mean to stir up stuff around your username. I'll delete the account to prevent further confusion.

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                • C cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com

                  Oh hey buddy, sorry, I didnt mean to stir up stuff around your username. I'll delete the account to prevent further confusion.

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                  Cowbee [he/they]
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                  Thanks, comrade! No worries, it's very flattering, but this won't be the last time someone accuses you of being me making an alt.

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                  • N nao@sh.itjust.works

                    What does it do when you select the middle option?

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                    gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                    i don't know

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                    • Z zen@lemmy.zip

                      I'm going to be frank.

                      I'm highly empathetic, and studied history, sociology, economics, international relations, and a few other subjects in university. I dabble in reading as well.

                      It's really, really hard for me to stomach the news coming out of the US right now. I'm Australian, so in comparison I live in a utopia. But I just want to cry whenever I see how innocent people are being hurt in the US, Venezuela, Palestine, or really anywhere else. I get angry when I see how the US government, and many others are fucking everything up right now. Things don't have to be like this.

                      There is so much American news on this platform. There is so much bad news in general. I don't come to the internet to stress and worry. I come here to learn stuff about niches and chill out. And every time I'm on Lemmy I'm left with the same bad feelings I get from reading world news subreddits.

                      Let me be clear; I have no problem with the fact that American news gets posted. It's that when I get on the lemmy.zip or lemmy.world page, some days 9/10 links are to American news, that is very, very, bad news. It makes me miserable.

                      So why should I be here instead of just switching off? I love Lemmy, but I find that I just can't justify coming on here. It makes me feel awful.

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                      gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                      I really feel you. I recently started aggressively blocking all politics-related communities. It does help a lot. Feed is much emptier, obviously, but it's still the right move i guess.

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                      • R randomgal@lemmy.ca

                        This. It was never about not having gatekeepers, it was always about being the gatekeeper instead.

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                        gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                        It was never about not having gatekeepers, it's about being able to choose who the gatekeeper(s) is/are.

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                        • J jabbathethott@lemmy.world

                          Most of the fun communities I've found are pretty dead so my feed is just full of world and tech news that is usually sad, aggravating, or misleading. No, I don't need another story of battery technology I'll never use on my feed.

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                          mander.xyz for science articles and memes.
                          startrek.website and tenforward@lemmy.world for star trek memes.
                          cybersecurity@sh.itjust.works for cybersecurity news, but not a lot of discussion.

                          The self hosting communities on lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are pretty active and good at answering questions.

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                          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                            I really feel you. I recently started aggressively blocking all politics-related communities. It does help a lot. Feed is much emptier, obviously, but it's still the right move i guess.

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                            zen@lemmy.zip
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                            I'll have to do that, but a non-zero amount of posts leak through into other communities. I did find out I can just filter posts by keywords using uBlock Origin.

                            Actually, could you please screenshot your filter list? I'd really like to just block them all without going through the effort of having to find them.

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                            • M moffkalast@lemmy.world

                              When this post is two days old and still on the very top of my feed you know that it's either a ghost town or the sorting algo doesn't work.

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                              gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                              i am still surprised that 800 people commented. i never saw 800 people under a single post so it must be pretty dang important to people

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                              • T ton@lemmy.world

                                As much I love the idea of Lemmy, I've noticed myself I was drawn back to Reddit. Why? Because it has a larger community, of course, but (and please don't shoot me for this), Reddit's algo and rewards. Yes, the achievements gallery is stupid, but it works.

                                The folks building Lemmy investigating how to increase engagement, this is one factor.

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                                gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                Reddit’s algo

                                in fact i have been asking for a better Lemmy content recommendation system here

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                                • Z zen@lemmy.zip

                                  I'll have to do that, but a non-zero amount of posts leak through into other communities. I did find out I can just filter posts by keywords using uBlock Origin.

                                  Actually, could you please screenshot your filter list? I'd really like to just block them all without going through the effort of having to find them.

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                                  gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  mostly these

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                                  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                                    mostly these

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                                    zen@lemmy.zip
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                                    Legendary 👊 thanks mate

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                                    • anon6789A anon6789

                                      I get bummed that the political stuff has really taken over. I find myself spending more and more time just working on my own content and answering people's comments than browsing the other communities. It's draining scrolling past so much stuff to find the fun bits, but I don't want to just block it and not see how our platform is developing as a whole.

                                      A lot of communities have rules that posts need to be titled the same as the source article, which, while it prevents editorializing, it also brings all those ragebait headlines here. Plus I'd like to see Lemmy users' opinions moreso than an article I could just read myself. I'd probably prefer more of the political post to be thoughts/feelings and then discussion is backed up by decent articles rather than an article being the post and comments are just all steered back to a single, often inflammatory article.

                                      If half our content is just reposted mainstream media, why would one expect our comment sections to look any different than the comment sections of those mainstream sites?

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                                      brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                      A lot of communities have rules that posts need to be titled the same as the source article, which, while it prevents editorializing, it also brings all those ragebait headlines here. Plus I’d like to see Lemmy users’ opinions moreso than an article I could just read myself.

                                      If half our content is just reposted mainstream media, why would one expect our comment sections to look any different than the comment sections of those mainstream sites?

                                      I agree with the sentiment but disagree with the prognosis.

                                      In my experience, the ragebait articles around here are largely from the same sites. Rawstory, mediaite, dailybeast, some of The Guardian's more indulgent pieces. I won't presume to know why the posters post them, but they're ragebait to start.

                                      I don't even see "Big Media" like Reuters or local news or whatever get upvoted much. And as longs as the news sections aren't mixed up with the opinion ones, IMO they're more professional.

                                      The accurate title rule is great as long as posters pick more journalistic articles instead of opinion pieces or reposts. And if they don't there's no fixing that anyway.

                                      I’d probably prefer more of the political post to be thoughts/feelings and then discussion is backed up by decent articles

                                      And I straight up I disagree with this.

                                      There are tons of talking heads with opinions. But journalism rooted in sourcing is much harder. That should come first, or at least come with an opinion in the OP, and then the discussion can be built around facts.

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                                      • D dudesss@lemmy.ca

                                        I disagree. If Lemmy was plagued with Nazis, it would down the shitter pretty fast.

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                                        ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                                        I don't want nazis here either and I'm glad that lemmy remains hostile to them. I was responding to someone who asked why people stayed on reddit. Given reddit's userbase, they're staying because they're welcome. We shouldn't welcome nazis.

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                                        • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                                          I mean... (to be, what's the word, pedantic?:-P) hexbear.net still exists though? And it is their choice if they want to convert to PieFed rather than remain with Lemmy. I am 100% certain that lemmy.ml will never do so though:-D.

                                          So fwiw I agree whole-heartedly with what you said, and that, imho, is what https://piefed.social/auth/instance_chooser provides? Any other new instance can make their own choice, and I like those GUI options much better. Like when I think of "lemmy.ml", the "Technology" aspect and the phrase "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers" is nowhere close to the top few thoughts that spring into my mind. And hexbears aren't even leftist, only pretending to be such. But the "choose your own adventure" category, in opposition to "Newbie-friendly", I feel like MUCH better describes both lemmy.ml and hexbear, wouldn't you agree?

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                                          periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca
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                                          Ah I misunderstood your example, I thought you were saying instances were intentionally excluded from the picker rather than "instances that don't support this platform don't appear".

                                          I'm not going to opine on what constitutes a "real" leftist apart from saying that left/right dichotomy really doesn't describe reality well.

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