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  • S Skavau

    I disagree if the defederated instances are maladaptive and export bad behaviour.

    In addition, I don't think lemmy.world or lemmy.ml have been defederated by anyone notable. The only example of lemmy.world being defederated, that I know, is beehaw.org. And I believe that Beehaw.org isn't interested in growth.

    The fediverse is not a single amorphous bloc with the same overall goals of growth.

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    tropicaldingdong@lemmy.world
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    The fediverse is not a single amorphous bloc with the same overall goals of growth.

    I mean, sure. I guess still people are on Fark. and Digg. And even still posting to Craigslist forums.

    And growth is a matter of survival. You don't grow, you don't survive.

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    • M moffkalast@lemmy.world

      When this post is two days old and still on the very top of my feed you know that it's either a ghost town or the sorting algo doesn't work.

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      pudutr0n@lemmy.world
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      #686

      Some of us are still fighting in the replies.

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      • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

        I came to this space in November of 2024.

        As a trans person I wanted community. So I checked out blahaj first. But, the queer community here is controlled by Ada who bans anyone she doesn't like and i ticked her off once by not bowing to her judgement when it came to allowing trolls to stay in the space. This drama also splintered the 196 community, and neither 196 space has had the same number of participants since.

        So no more queer community for me. I've had to get that other places like Tumblr.

        I then decide to use the .db0 community to report what I feel is abusive behavior from .blahaj staff and after enough time they realized that they really don't like people using the "report abuse community" to report abuse of specific spaces like blahaj. Banned for using the space for what it was created for.

        So no more .db0

        I'm just so tired of using this space, it feels just like reddit except there's somehow even less accountability.

        Every week i feel less and less compelled to contribute

        I used to enjoy posting like a dozen memes a day and now I don't post anymore. It's not fun it's a chore to keep feeding memes and engagement into this space that pretty much only has told me it hates me for the last year.

        Bad app :c

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        banme@lemmy.world
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        #687

        Mods like Ada will destroy Lemmy in general.

        Edit: I'll elaborate. Ada will not only ban you if you hurt their feelings, they'll also ban you across several other communities even if you've never posted in them. That's absurd. Must have onion-thin skin. Who acts like that?

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        • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

          I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

          the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

          So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

          edit: source for the graph

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          captpretentious@lemmy.world
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          The more niche communities really suffer I feel from the decentralized pattern. Tv shows, movies, video games, etc. you have everyone trying to be the "de-facto" instance and none of them really get traffic.

          Really, Lemmy is just a US political platform with some weak notions of being anything else. And if it wants to survive, it needs more people, with more interesting topic. To many subs are just ghost towns.

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          • S Skavau

            I think he is filtering by active which keeps posts still receiving lots of comments very high.

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            lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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            Seems like it. That's what I do and it is the same for me. But I like it that way.

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            • C cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com

              Yes, that's why it's inclusive of trans and bans transphobia, that's a good thing! An internet space without overt Zionism, transphobia... It feels great

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              softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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              The way in which you can't even aknowledge the problems with your fascist ideology is reqlly crrepy and dystopian. You come off like there is a CCP state agent pointing a gun at your head as you write every comment.

              Sorry you can't ban me in this space cowbee :c

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              • C cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com

                I'm not Cowbee, I just appreciate Cowbee, as my username says. Cowbee is the opposite of supporting dictatorships, he's a socialist supporting the struggle against western imperialism.

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                softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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                #691

                Cowbee is the same kind of "socialist" as wernher von braun

                Also you aren't fooling anyone with your ban evasion account. At least change up your cadence or something.

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                • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                  I've been one of the people saying "we don't need more users. we need quality over quantity" and i was wrong.

                  the way it's going, lemmy needs active users who post content sothat the network stays relevant. networks like the fediverse benefit from network effects and that means that if we have more users, that improves the value and quality of the fediverse overall.

                  So please, everyone, when you can, make advertisement for the fediverse in your personal area. Go talk to friends, make attractive stickers and put them everywhere, stuff like that. We would all benefit from it.

                  edit: source for the graph

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                  zen@lemmy.zip
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                  #692

                  I'm going to be frank.

                  I'm highly empathetic, and studied history, sociology, economics, international relations, and a few other subjects in university. I dabble in reading as well.

                  It's really, really hard for me to stomach the news coming out of the US right now. I'm Australian, so in comparison I live in a utopia. But I just want to cry whenever I see how innocent people are being hurt in the US, Venezuela, Palestine, or really anywhere else. I get angry when I see how the US government, and many others are fucking everything up right now. Things don't have to be like this.

                  There is so much American news on this platform. There is so much bad news in general. I don't come to the internet to stress and worry. I come here to learn stuff about niches and chill out. And every time I'm on Lemmy I'm left with the same bad feelings I get from reading world news subreddits.

                  Let me be clear; I have no problem with the fact that American news gets posted. It's that when I get on the lemmy.zip or lemmy.world page, some days 9/10 links are to American news, that is very, very, bad news. It makes me miserable.

                  So why should I be here instead of just switching off? I love Lemmy, but I find that I just can't justify coming on here. It makes me feel awful.

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                  • Z zen@lemmy.zip

                    I'm going to be frank.

                    I'm highly empathetic, and studied history, sociology, economics, international relations, and a few other subjects in university. I dabble in reading as well.

                    It's really, really hard for me to stomach the news coming out of the US right now. I'm Australian, so in comparison I live in a utopia. But I just want to cry whenever I see how innocent people are being hurt in the US, Venezuela, Palestine, or really anywhere else. I get angry when I see how the US government, and many others are fucking everything up right now. Things don't have to be like this.

                    There is so much American news on this platform. There is so much bad news in general. I don't come to the internet to stress and worry. I come here to learn stuff about niches and chill out. And every time I'm on Lemmy I'm left with the same bad feelings I get from reading world news subreddits.

                    Let me be clear; I have no problem with the fact that American news gets posted. It's that when I get on the lemmy.zip or lemmy.world page, some days 9/10 links are to American news, that is very, very, bad news. It makes me miserable.

                    So why should I be here instead of just switching off? I love Lemmy, but I find that I just can't justify coming on here. It makes me feel awful.

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                    Skavau
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                    If you move to piefed.zip, you have more control over your feed via keyword filters.

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                    • super_user_doS super_user_do

                      Hey Bro i think you forgot to wear this πŸ‘‘πŸ‘‘πŸ‘‘πŸ‘‘

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                      πŸ‰ Albert πŸ‰
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                      noooo, I didn't want to lose my head in the guillotine,

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                      • C captpretentious@lemmy.world

                        The more niche communities really suffer I feel from the decentralized pattern. Tv shows, movies, video games, etc. you have everyone trying to be the "de-facto" instance and none of them really get traffic.

                        Really, Lemmy is just a US political platform with some weak notions of being anything else. And if it wants to survive, it needs more people, with more interesting topic. To many subs are just ghost towns.

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                        tropicaldingdong@lemmy.world
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                        A big part of that is on the design side. We really need the ability to fork/ clone/ merge/ migrate communities across instances. Lemmy was designed to be an "entire" reddit replacement. Because of this, we end up with redundant communities with less activity. Migration of accounts and communities could effectively solve this issue.

                        Its possibly lemmy could have been designed such that communities of similar type could be aggregated into a single instance. For example, maybe you start a "snowboarding" community on .world, but when a sports focused instance pops up, you might want to migrate your community. A few instances build like this.

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                        • Z zaphod@sopuli.xyz

                          Hacker News is currently drowning in "I did something with AI" posts.

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                          zen@lemmy.zip
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                          I really can't with Hacker News. The new US food guidelines were a good example. Every single damn comment was defending the inclusion of beef and dairy in it, especially saturated fat.

                          So many disgusting pro-AI comments strawmanning anti-AI opinions too.

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                          • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

                            Cowbee is the same kind of "socialist" as wernher von braun

                            Also you aren't fooling anyone with your ban evasion account. At least change up your cadence or something.

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                            cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com
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                            #697

                            My main account is @vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net, I'm really not lying to you. But I feel honored to be compared to comrade Cowbee

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                            • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

                              The way in which you can't even aknowledge the problems with your fascist ideology is reqlly crrepy and dystopian. You come off like there is a CCP state agent pointing a gun at your head as you write every comment.

                              Sorry you can't ban me in this space cowbee :c

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                              cowbee_admirer@reddthat.com
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                              I'm not Cowbee

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                              • A aermis@lemmy.world

                                I don't mind other opinions. I don't mind different points of view. I don't mind culture and mentality differences. I'm Ukrainian living in America so the views I have, while leaning heavily left, differ to the point of leftists vehemently opposing even the slightest push back to some policies or views.

                                For this reason I never delete my comments and never block anyone. I need to see more. I need to see the different people and cultures. Otherwise we set up a community like parts of Seattle (where I live) that is in this political bubble that get shocked when anyone has views that differ. It creates this perspective that these other people don't exist and that the world was stolen from them. And the reason they can't comprehend other views is because they're involved in communities where these views get erased.

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                                zen@lemmy.zip
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                                #699

                                I really admire this, and wish I was more like this. I had conservative parents and grew up in a conservative echo chamber. I got their opinions shoved down my throat my entire life. I have exactly 0 patience for conservative most view points. Especially when there it conflicts with scientific evidence and/or common decency. I tend to shut down conversations (online and in real life) with people that disagree with me.

                                Reality is it just hurts me to see their opinions being the dominant/default position in society. Makes our society feel unforgiving.

                                But I'm trying to change. I'm meditating, and journaling on this.

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                                • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

                                  Cowbee is the same kind of "socialist" as wernher von braun

                                  Also you aren't fooling anyone with your ban evasion account. At least change up your cadence or something.

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                                  Cowbee [he/they]
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                                  I'm the same kind of socialist as Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. I'm a Marxist-Leninist, communist, whatever you want to call me. I'm no Nazi, and equating Nazism with communism contributes to Double Genocide Theory, a form of Holocaust trivialization.

                                  I'm also not banned here either, I can talk to you just fine. This is a conspiracy-theory with 0 evidence, I'm not sure why you believe it so strongly.

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                                  • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

                                    The way in which you can't even aknowledge the problems with your fascist ideology is reqlly crrepy and dystopian. You come off like there is a CCP state agent pointing a gun at your head as you write every comment.

                                    Sorry you can't ban me in this space cowbee :c

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                                    Cowbee [he/they]
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                                    Considering you think you're replying to me, I'm not a fascist, I'm a communist, same as Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. There are no CPC agents pointing guns at me, I'm a communist that organizes in real life.

                                    I also can't ban you anywhere, the only space I moderate is Hexbear's c/theory comm, which on a .world account you can't even see.

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                                    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS softestsapphic@lemmy.world

                                      Yeah, i unfortunately don't agree with the tankie censorship of people who disapprove of dictatorships.

                                      Cowbee you especially are a gross person when it comes to licking authoritarian boot.

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                                      Cowbee [he/they]
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                                      I don't "lick authoritarian boot" for supporting existing socialism, and the person you're replying to isn't me.

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                                      • S supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
                                        1. More then Reddit this place is an echo chamber for the far left anti capitalist crowd. While I don't mind a discussion, everything over simplified to EAT THE RICH was getting tiresome.

                                        That must be so difficult for you compared to all the wonderful corporate platforms full of rightwing hateful trolls who genuinely harass people.

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                                        zen@lemmy.zip
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                                        I'm going to tentatively upvote this. There's a good reason the left wingers on this platform sound bitter (myself included). The Overton Window has shifted right, so they're pretty much surrounded by toxic right-wing stuff on every other platform.

                                        Still, it doesn't help Lemmy attract moderates.

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                                        • tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT tropicaldingdong@lemmy.world

                                          A big part of that is on the design side. We really need the ability to fork/ clone/ merge/ migrate communities across instances. Lemmy was designed to be an "entire" reddit replacement. Because of this, we end up with redundant communities with less activity. Migration of accounts and communities could effectively solve this issue.

                                          Its possibly lemmy could have been designed such that communities of similar type could be aggregated into a single instance. For example, maybe you start a "snowboarding" community on .world, but when a sports focused instance pops up, you might want to migrate your community. A few instances build like this.

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                                          Skavau
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                                          Piefed has a community migration tool.

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