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Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse

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  • Jerkface (any/all)J Jerkface (any/all)

    okay but it's also a normal thing for the CPC to monitor and influence online spaces and it's certainly not restricted to lemmy

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    wrote last edited by cowbee@lemmy.ml
    #190

    To a degree, perhaps, though the CPC largely sticks to the Chinese sphere of the internet. I haven't seen any evidence for CPC interference in Lemmy though, nor of widespread CPC influence over western, English-speaking spaces. China doesn't really care as much for that, plus the implication is that the US Empire is fundamentally weaker than the PRC at propagandizing on the Statesian "home turf" when we know the opposite is the case.

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    • Diva (she/her)D Diva (she/her)

      The whole study makes a good read.

      Srry I can't take it seriously when the author is this guy

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      #191

      Is that real?

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      • T thoro@lemmy.ml

        I liked the part where they conflate anti Zionism with antisemitism, show one comment/"post" as proof, and don't reference it so readers can view upvotes or context around said post.

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        wrote last edited by edie@lemmy.ml
        #192

        https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/18989

        5 downvotes, removed by mod. Modlog for user: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=2803

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        • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

          Is that real?

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          Diva (she/her)
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          #193

          Yes lol

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            https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/18989

            5 downvotes, removed by mod. Modlog for user: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=2803

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            thoro@lemmy.ml
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            #194

            Lmao wow

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            • Diva (she/her)D Diva (she/her)

              Yes lol

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              #195

              Incredible, the shining knight of Zionism and anti-communism.

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                https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/18989

                5 downvotes, removed by mod. Modlog for user: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog?userId=2803

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                #196

                I thought that's what happened with that one, thanks for digging it up!

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                • Cowbee [he/they]C Cowbee [he/they]

                  I thought that's what happened with that one, thanks for digging it up!

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                  #197

                  It was actually TankieTanuki that dug it up https://hexbear.net/comment/6404332

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                  • Diva (she/her)D Diva (she/her)

                    Yes lol

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                    king_comrade@lemmy.world
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                    #198

                    Holy shit 😂

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                      It was actually TankieTanuki that dug it up https://hexbear.net/comment/6404332

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                      Cowbee [he/they]
                      wrote last edited by
                      #199

                      Ah, thanks!

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                      • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                        Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                        melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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                        #200

                        Chinese, Chinese, Chinese! Doesn't anyone care about the Lithuanians and what they are doing!!?? /s

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                        • goat@sh.itjust.worksG goat@sh.itjust.works

                          ah yes, corporate media such as... the BBC

                          truly yank brained

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                          chaosad@lemmy.world
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                          #201

                          Are you trying to be ironic? Of course the BBC is pro imperialism.

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                          • T thoro@lemmy.ml

                            Days in the fediverse comm without explicit anti-communism and red scare fearmongering: 0

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                            chaosad@lemmy.world
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                            #202

                            Right? Hahahahaha

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                            • K KryptonBlur

                              I tend to find Lemmy to be pretty good at being critical of the US

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                              chaosad@lemmy.world
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                              #203

                              Lemmy world isn't

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                              • D dsn9@lemmy.ml

                                Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

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                                chloroken@lemmy.ml
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                                #204

                                Sinophobia will get you nowhere. Those "Chinese State Actors" on the Fediverse are largely Western crackers who read theory and oppose Imperialism. You shouldn't bogeyman an entire nation you don't know anything about, this is xenophobic and also works against the working class.

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                                • H hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org

                                  @Cowbee@lemmygrad.ml

                                  Lemmygrad. ml is explicitly ML.

                                  Exploring Left-Wing Extremism on the Decentralized Web: An Analysis of Lemmygrad. ml

                                  ... findings reveal a substantial increase in user activity and toxicity levels following the migration of these subreddits to Lemmygrad. ml. We also identify posts that support authoritarian regimes, endorse the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and feature anti-Zionist and antisemitic content ... Moreover, their support can extend beyond backing these authoritarian regimes, even cheering on their violent actions, as evidenced by their posts on the Russian invasion of Ukraine ...

                                  The whole study makes a good read.

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                                  chloroken@lemmy.ml
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                                  #205

                                  The problem with political studies is that they're nonscientific. It's a blog post they're calling a study. No amount of statistical analysis or clever methodology makes this a proper study because it's based on political opinions. A terrible, ignorant set of opinions at that.

                                  "But isn't Marxism a study of politics?!" No, it's a body of works in economics and historical analysis, not wayward political opinions.

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                                  • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                                    Pretty sure these are all the same person. If you ever engage, you can recognize the same asshole attitude. I've seen multiple of them up/down vote comments where no one else has. Don't think they do that anymore cause it's too obvious.

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                                    goferking (he/him)
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                                    #206

                                    That would explain a lot and make their constant denials of pushing specific content even funnier

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                                    • R realitista@lemmus.org

                                      Where did I say civilians? That's just the pretext they used to silence any words against Russia.

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                                      goferking (he/him)
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                                      #207

                                      What do you think people need to be punished implies?

                                      Asking as have seen way too many say it totally only means the bad ones especially when talking about areas they believe everyone in the area are fair game

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                                      • B braininabox@lemmy.ml

                                        Where did I say civilians?

                                        In the linked chain, repeatedly.

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                                        goferking (he/him)
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                                        #208

                                        It's amazing how many don't see people as civilians simply because live in the wrong spot

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                                        • H hector@lemmy.today

                                          That assumes you accurately define propaganda. I think we've all faced half baked allegations as such, and had people vote with the accuser, you want everyone to be seperated from each other on here because they misunderstood a point, or understood different facts, or because they are a dumbass on a different topic?

                                          Just downvote, and move on, unless the person is stalking you, looking at you hexrat, or whatever fucking mammal.

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                                          edible_funk
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                                          #209

                                          Irony thy name is Hector.

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