/r/BuyFromEU: "Let's settle the Reddit alternative discussion: Lemmy doesn't need to “beat Reddit”, it needs to feel effortless"
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My guess is they're the late reddit accounts when reddit is already big and shit. They weren't around when reddit was just "small digg". Tbf I wasn't there as well.
I was on reddit back when it was just small digg, you are 100% correct.
These are a bunch of modern social media brainrotted people, for lack of a better term, who just need to get all the upvotes, need to get as much digitally mediated social validation as possible.
These people are the hivemind.
They want everything to be easy and convenient and accomdodate them, they'll yap for hours about how something should work and never do a damn actual thing to achieve it beyond 'spreading awareness'.
The fact that it took you a few attempts to figure out how to 'do' lemmy acts as a filter.
I'm not awake enough to be able to try and argue whether or not its... net better overall to have an easy, more difficult to censor and manipulate reddit alternative... or if allowing it to be easy to access just fundamentally does comprimise the system by way of the hivemind then eventually, inevitably taking over and becoming increasingly sycophantic and culty and sociopathic.
... but I can tell you that from a certain point of view, having to actually engage your brain a bit to join what is basically a network of web forums, well you can see see that as a feature, not a bug.
By this point of my life on this floating rock we call Earth, I think having a filter is a good thing lol.
I'll be happy tobhelpbmy friends to jump in and guide through the filter. And if some of them aren't will to do it (much like reddit before it is changed targeting the lowest common denominator audience that is addicted to online validation), well I can't help them.
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reddit also has the google search privilege which makes hard to beat, it actively hides lemmy site.
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I disagree that having a variety of UIs is a bad thing. I wouldn't want every instance to look like dbzero! It also highlights that Lemmy is not a single platform, it's a federation of them. Heck even reddit has two UIs!
I'm not saying it's bad to have a variety of UIs, but that there's no "lemmy UI" because it all depends on which instance you land on. So when someone says "the lemmy UI is awful" then we don't really know what they mean, because they might have gone to dbzero and thought that's what "lemmy" looks like.
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They may not know the phone apps, and if they're on iOS there may not be any.
There are quite a few apps for Lemmy on IOS, actually it was a bit disheartening how many targeted exclusively IOS for a while or which were still web apps with IOS centered theming.
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reddit also has the google search privilege which makes hard to beat, it actively hides lemmy site.
Kagi has a Fediverse Forums search lens by default. But doesn't really say which sites it searches.
Not meant as an endorsement, actually cancelled my Kagi subscription recently because it's multiple times each month and often blocks my VPN.
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I actually think this post has a lot of solid points, many of which I have argued myself in the past. One thing was funny though. He says:
Today's Reddit is a phone product. The “just use the web UI” crowd is not representative of mainstream behavior.
and then several users in the comments were turned off by the Web UI of Lemmy.
Can't make everyone happy I guess, Lemmy definitely was built by and for people that still remember the old reddit UI.
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I actually think this post has a lot of solid points, many of which I have argued myself in the past. One thing was funny though. He says:
Today's Reddit is a phone product. The “just use the web UI” crowd is not representative of mainstream behavior.
and then several users in the comments were turned off by the Web UI of Lemmy.
The moment reddit users went from being primarily old.reddit to m.reddit was the final day of decent reddit, imo.
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I'm not saying it's bad to have a variety of UIs, but that there's no "lemmy UI" because it all depends on which instance you land on. So when someone says "the lemmy UI is awful" then we don't really know what they mean, because they might have gone to dbzero and thought that's what "lemmy" looks like.
I understand what you're saying, but what you want (conformity of UIs) is just not possible to enforce on a decentralized network.
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They may not know the phone apps, and if they're on iOS there may not be any.
I mean, lots of people seem to like Voyager and mostly because it has been based of the defunct Apollo app that was only on iOS. I am sure if you search for Lemmy iOS app you should find it?
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actually I do think aggregated sublemmies would be a good thing for engagement and content discovery - it seems silly that there are 4 different communities all about the same thing (eg buyfromeu)
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I understand what you're saying, but what you want (conformity of UIs) is just not possible to enforce on a decentralized network.
I'm not saying I want conformity of the UI's across instances. Maybe my original comment wasn't worded great, but I think ultimately it's a drawback of the decentralised nature of the threadiverse. People land on an instance and make an assumption that it's all like that.
