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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • E evol@lemmy.today

    I wonder if its due to how closely Anime attempts to animate Manga? I feel like you can kind of "explain" what happens in text alot more smoothly than on a TV show due to how much faster you ingest knowledge.

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    rhombus
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    Often it’s a localization issue too. Japanese dialogue doesn’t translate easily to English, it’s usually longer and has more layers of formality that English can’t express. And they often aren’t allowed to cut the content, so they have to make the English super wordy and explainy to match the long winded mouth flaps.

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    • C criss_cross@lemmy.world

      SEO was a mistake.

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      rhombus
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      Also the more repetition the more room on the page for ad spots. Same reason so many Youtubers restate the same shit almost verbatim over and over and over; it pads the video so Youtube can cram in more ad spots.

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        lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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        Bad movies need to do this. You know, the average movie Netflix signs off on.

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        • P portifornia@lemmy.world

          I think you're both right, somehow.

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          rhombus
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          #117

          Less movement in the main plot, but more unnecessary side plot shit that is often unresolved by the end.

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            ambientdread@lemmy.world
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            Or we are on our phones because the movies repeat their themes over and over and over again

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            • R rhombus

              The constant restating on Youtube is to pad out their video and get more ad spots. I also immediately dislike and hide them because of that.

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              SeductiveTortoise
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              Same here, I know why they do it, but they will lose me as a viewer.

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              • edible_funkE edible_funk

                I disagree with basically that whole interpretation. And the ending was explicitly hopeful. I think you just took it personal that what you thought was gonna happen didn't.

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                DeliciousDoorknob
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                What's hopeful about El disappearing from everyone's life? I'm hardly the only one who sees it this way.

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                • A ambientdread@lemmy.world

                  Or we are on our phones because the movies repeat their themes over and over and over again

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                  gustofwind@lemmy.world
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                  i dunno, most people i see watch netflix seem to use it as just another mode of stimulus because they need to always be completely inundated with flashing screens at all times to feel calm

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                  • R rhombus

                    Often it’s a localization issue too. Japanese dialogue doesn’t translate easily to English, it’s usually longer and has more layers of formality that English can’t express. And they often aren’t allowed to cut the content, so they have to make the English super wordy and explainy to match the long winded mouth flaps.

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                    evol@lemmy.today
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                    #122

                    Yeah I also didn't think of the translation part too, good point

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                    • D DeliciousDoorknob

                      What's hopeful about El disappearing from everyone's life? I'm hardly the only one who sees it this way.

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                      edible_funk
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                      The fact that she's "dead" means she's finally free, and I'm pretty sure Mike's speech about what if she's still alive was a strong hint that eventually he'd find her again. Every character got the best possible outcome all considered.

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                        but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                        Sorry Damon but Thats just the world now, we all watch while on our phones when we stream and you aren’t going back ever

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                        • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          Atomization means to atomize, your thinking of automation or automated.

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                          DylanMc6 [any, any]
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                          I mean the atomization of society

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                          • S switorik@lemmy.zip

                            This is what kills any articles on the web. The first three paragraphs repeat the question you're looking to get answered and the last paragraph vaguely answers it.

                            I feel like an old person now but I've started watching movies from the 90s/2000s and I can't believe how much worse movies have become over the years.

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                            apotheotic (she/her)
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                            There are some standout exceptions to that trend but it is a depressing trajectory for sure

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                            • S [object Object]

                              I guess that's why ‘Severance’ is full of padding shots with nothing happening in them.

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                              gathorall@lemmy.world
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                              Most are even marked with ominous elevator music for your convenience.

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                              • RiskableR Riskable

                                Talk about the wrong response!

                                If they want people to not look away or do something else while the movie is playing you gotta keep it interesting.

                                Ya know, like perhaps making movies that aren't just rehashes of the same old stories.

                                Make movies and shows that keep people on their toes!

                                Making a crime drama? Throw in some traveler from the future or a demon or both! Give the judge two heads because of a "merging accident" or something!

                                Putting together a horror movie? Throw in some romance among the monsters! Have them feed each other eyeballs or something!

                                Making an anime? Try something totally radical! Like a male protagonist with non-dark hair that has a personality, or make a couple—in love—who get stuck somewhere together, alone have actual sex (like normal teens would) or something!

                                Making a K-drama? Add a black guy and make him one of the main characters... Haha, just kidding! That would be too radical! That'd be just as extreme as making an anime that covers the time period a few years after "the hero" formed his harem!

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                                gathorall@lemmy.world
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                                And what then? How does anything you've proposed matter?

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                                • A atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works

                                  Does that include Lemmy?

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                                  ken@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                  #129

                                  It can. Depends on how you use it. Wear gloves and goggles when handling .ml and political memes on .world and such.

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                                  • DylanMc6 [any, any]D DylanMc6 [any, any]

                                    I mean the atomization of society

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                                    kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                    I’m not trying to be a dick, but that word doesn't work there. It sounds like you’re trying to say “society moving towards full automation” but there isn’t a word that would quite slot into your sentence to mean that.

                                    Sometimes you just gotta use more words.

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                                    • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      I’m not trying to be a dick, but that word doesn't work there. It sounds like you’re trying to say “society moving towards full automation” but there isn’t a word that would quite slot into your sentence to mean that.

                                      Sometimes you just gotta use more words.

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                                      DylanMc6 [any, any]
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                                      This is what I mean: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx's_theory_of_alienation

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                                      • S [object Object]

                                        I've watched through ‘Severance’, which is very popular afaict. It's chock full of protracted shots padding the runtime. Either the directors (mostly Ben Stiller) think they're new Kubricks, or the directive was to make the show longer. Idk what Netflix gets from a longer show, when a season is dumped all at once anyway — presumably more space for ads, which are apparently there now. I wouldn't feel much guilty about checking the phone in between any meaningful action.

                                        The only new film that really gripped me in the past few years was ‘The Substance’, which felt like oldschool Cronenberg stuff. Ironically it's comparatively long, and doesn't even have much dialogue.

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                                        potustheplant@feddit.nl
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                                        #132

                                        First and foremost, you're complaining about pacing, not writing. Second, that's your opinion and that's fine. Personally, I don't think every single second needs to move the plot forward. I'm perfectly fine with sections of it being transicions or world building or other stuff.

                                        Your opinion's fine though. Just go watch something else. However, you not liking something doesn't mean that it's necessarily bad, nor good.

                                        If the substance really is the only film that gripped you in the past few years, then you either are terrible at picking movies or you just don't really like cinema all that much.

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                                        • M MotoAsh

                                          lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

                                          Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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                                          potustheplant@feddit.nl
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                                          The fact that classics exist has literally nothing to do with this discussion. Also, no, movies aren't getting longer. Source.

                                          There are plenty of great films still being made every year. If you don't watch or like them, that's a you problem.

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