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  3. Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • G gathorall@lemmy.world

    And what then? How does anything you've proposed matter?

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    Riskable
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    It'll be more interesting.

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    • P potustheplant@feddit.nl

      The fact that classics exist has literally nothing to do with this discussion. Also, no, movies aren't getting longer. Source.

      There are plenty of great films still being made every year. If you don't watch or like them, that's a you problem.

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      MotoAsh
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      Nowhere did I say they no longer make good movies.

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      • M MotoAsh

        Nah, they're making a joke from the misspelling.

        add: To perform addition. Or a mob joining an ongoing fight in a game.

        ad: An advertisement.

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        denaggels@feddit.org
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        Thank you, should have made that clear.

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          fort_burp@feddit.nl
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          Can't believe how prescient this movie was. We're on our way!

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          • F fort_burp@feddit.nl

            Can't believe how prescient this movie was. We're on our way!

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            Captain Aggravated
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            Go away! Bait'n!

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            • T theoriginalgregtoo@lemmy.world

              I would actually argue the opposite. Modern movie plots are an ADD fever dream. There are so many things going on that keeping track is an absolute chore.

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              thefonz@lemmy.world
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              Except pluribus

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                thefonz@lemmy.world
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                I think Netflix manufactured this problem first. Originally they were going for volume so they added a lot of padding to their og shows. To the point I stopped watching (torrenting) any Netflix originals. So people got in the habit of doing other stuff while waiting for the plot to start moving again. Now they claim that their shows are meant for second screens. Motherfucker: we are in the golden age of TV, so there's plenty of engaging content being produced. Marvelous Mrs. Maisle is so fast paced and brilliant I never felt the need to pick up my phone.

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                • RiskableR Riskable

                  It'll be more interesting.

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                  gathorall@lemmy.world
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                  Why? Are you satisfied by simple window dressing?

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                  • edible_funkE edible_funk

                    The fact that she's "dead" means she's finally free, and I'm pretty sure Mike's speech about what if she's still alive was a strong hint that eventually he'd find her again. Every character got the best possible outcome all considered.

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                    DeliciousDoorknob
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                    If we take Duffer brothers' word as gospel, they will never see each other again. Which was the intended message to go along with their "she represents childhood magic, and that has to end for kids to grow up" statement. Nothing hopeful there.

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                    • T thefonz@lemmy.world

                      I think Netflix manufactured this problem first. Originally they were going for volume so they added a lot of padding to their og shows. To the point I stopped watching (torrenting) any Netflix originals. So people got in the habit of doing other stuff while waiting for the plot to start moving again. Now they claim that their shows are meant for second screens. Motherfucker: we are in the golden age of TV, so there's plenty of engaging content being produced. Marvelous Mrs. Maisle is so fast paced and brilliant I never felt the need to pick up my phone.

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                      pokerchips@programming.dev
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                      Marvelous was great. Always attentive to that show.

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                        tankovayadiviziya@lemmy.world
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                        Netflix movies are pretty crap for doing these because we ourselves are to blame. I admit I have done this couple of times while watching movie or TV at home.

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                        • C criss_cross@lemmy.world

                          SEO was a mistake.

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                          Schadrach
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                          SEO was inevitable. That what is optimal to be seen in a search is not what is most useful for the end user is a failure of search engine algorithms to properly penalize that shit.

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                          • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                            It’s the big tech social media disease.

                            Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

                            It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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                            lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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                            I don't use FB, Instagram, X, or TikTok, but on YT, the last few things I watched was a video by ElectroBoom on electric showerheads, some other video about how ancient Egypt made things so flat, a couple of episodes of the 50s TV show The Lone Ranger, and a video about the Eiffel Tower.

                            If you're watching things on YT that's making your mind unpeaceful, watch something else. Getting off of YT isn't going to help. No matter where you or your loved ones go, there they are.

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                            • F freddieslantern@leminal.space

                              You tell me:

                              -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                              -is the public on lemmy tolerant of sexoffenders? Nazis?

                              -ads? (Yes, I initially misspelled it as “adds” this guy right here)

                              -do you have superfluous bs following you around?

                              I think not.

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                              Schadrach
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                              -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                              No, but I don't get that elsewhere either. You may need to update your adblocker. Or install more than one (one for web stuff and sponsorblock to get YTers doing their own ad reads).

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                              • D DeliciousDoorknob

                                If we take Duffer brothers' word as gospel, they will never see each other again. Which was the intended message to go along with their "she represents childhood magic, and that has to end for kids to grow up" statement. Nothing hopeful there.

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                                edible_funk
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                                Why are you listening to them when you could just watch the show and make your own opinions? Maybe that's how the duffer bros intended it, but that's absolutely not how it came across the screen. I think they got a little high on their own supply because absolutely nothing whatsoever in the show or anything eleven did conveyed the idea that she was supposed to represent childhood magic. I think they had just read IT maybe or were confusing ST for for a random Stephen King story because there was nothing of that at all in the show. It wasn't that kind of show, any metaphors or analogies are surface level. So you can read their botched interpretation that clearly didn't come through in the final product or you can just watch the ending with media literacy and see that literally every character remaining gets the happiest possible outcome.

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                                  -are you getting ads/shorts/brainrot shoved in face every single second?

                                  No, but I don't get that elsewhere either. You may need to update your adblocker. Or install more than one (one for web stuff and sponsorblock to get YTers doing their own ad reads).

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                                  freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                                  I think we define the list differently.

                                  There is a difference between let’s say ads and shorts (which are indeed blockable to a certain level). But then there’s the brainrot. Which to me envelopes a bigger problem.

                                  On fb for example to me this was promotion of influencers, meme pages, … patronising stuff that annoys me endlessly.

                                  I don’t think you can steer Facebook in a way that they don’t display certain content you don’t want. In fact I’ve has the opposite happen a few times.

                                  “Oh you’re trying to tell the algo you want less of this content? How about some more, twice as much?”.

                                  At that point I’m done with the platform, no thx.
                                  And just in general, I’m throwing away as much big tech accounts as I can and it feels like a relief, good riddance.

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                                  • gustofwind@lemmy.worldG gustofwind@lemmy.world

                                    i dunno, most people i see watch netflix seem to use it as just another mode of stimulus because they need to always be completely inundated with flashing screens at all times to feel calm

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                                    Xanthrax
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                                    I feel like it's both, but it also comes down to if I care enough to skip through the rehash.

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                                    • edible_funkE edible_funk

                                      Why are you listening to them when you could just watch the show and make your own opinions? Maybe that's how the duffer bros intended it, but that's absolutely not how it came across the screen. I think they got a little high on their own supply because absolutely nothing whatsoever in the show or anything eleven did conveyed the idea that she was supposed to represent childhood magic. I think they had just read IT maybe or were confusing ST for for a random Stephen King story because there was nothing of that at all in the show. It wasn't that kind of show, any metaphors or analogies are surface level. So you can read their botched interpretation that clearly didn't come through in the final product or you can just watch the ending with media literacy and see that literally every character remaining gets the happiest possible outcome.

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                                      DeliciousDoorknob
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                                      Media literacy tells me two main characters didn't get their happy endings. It also tells me neither of the endings are logistically possible or make much sense. I think it's fine we agree to disagree on this.

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                                        lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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                                        I wasn't looking at my phone when I watched that cop movie they made. I was lifting weights and hemming my sweatpants.

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                                        • G gathorall@lemmy.world

                                          Why? Are you satisfied by simple window dressing?

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                                          Riskable
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                                          Why do you think interesting stories are mere window dressing? Window dressing is hiring famous actors and recording pretty faces in pretty places.

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