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Matt Damon Says Netflix Wants Movies to Restate the ‘Plot Three or Four Times in the Dialogue’ Because Viewers are on ‘Their Phones While They’re Watching’

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  • edible_funkE edible_funk

    Depressingly? It was fully happily ever after. And it just did the same thing every other season did, largely disregard previous seasons to introduce a new big bad for the season leading up to a big monster fight. It was incredibly par for the course, 70 percent style with 30 percent substance. It's not high cinema but it's entertaining tv.

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    DeliciousDoorknob
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    It was fully happily ever after.

    Hard disagree. Fully happily-ever-after wouldn't have ended with
    ::: spoiler S5 finale spoilers
    the main 16-year-old character either dying or somewhere all on her own with no family/friends/support circle, useful life skills, money or even documents to travel anywhere outside the US. While her boyfriend is stuck with depression and potentially living in delusion that she is still alive. The whole idea that El represents childhood magic and that she has to die/disappear, so other characters could move on is genuinely out of touch and potentially harmful, considering she's been "used, abused and manipulated" since she was born. Sends a real fucked up message there. This could have worked, if the show had finished in one season. But it does not work after 5 seasons of growth (though in S5 she was completely sidelined). The one character that deserved happily ever after, and they didn't give it to her. Not to mention how Vickie has been completely forgotten in the epilogue, or rather discarded with an offhanded comment about being an "overbearing significant other", when Robin has been an asshole to her the entire season.
    :::

    I actually would have loved a true happily-ever-after. This tired trend of every show—even something that's supposed to be lighthearted—getting a tragic or "bittersweer" ending, because that's considered "deep", should just die already.

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    • S skisnow@lemmy.ca

      I like when Matt Damon restates his name three or four times in the dialogue

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      optissima@lemmy.world
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      Blame his agent for getting him a pokemon gig as a pokemon

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        slappyfuck@lemmy.ca
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        I don’t see anything wrong with this. Have them wear crazy outfits that no one will see either.

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        • FudgyMcTubbsF FudgyMcTubbs

          Wow... I dont want to see any of those potential movies you just pitched.

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          Riskable
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          That's fine! How would you keep things interesting?

          Or are you just boring?

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            nangijala@feddit.dk
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            Good thing we canceled our Netflix subscription last year when Trump threatened to invade our country the first time.

            Even greater that now that he is threatening to do it again, and seemingly is more serious about it, we are one year into being back on physical media and we fucking love it. Dvds and blurays are so much better than shitflix.

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            • RiskableR Riskable

              That's fine! How would you keep things interesting?

              Or are you just boring?

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              FudgyMcTubbs
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              I'm pretty boring. I like depth of writing, artful cinematography, expert acting all the way down to two-line roles, least amount of cgi/green screen as possible (fake fire doesn't look real, and cgi car chases look cheesy af), not the same actors ive seen in stuff for the past 20+ years (but i do like famous actors who absolutely slay a completely new type of role for them -- like Jim Carrey did in Truman Show), fantastic dialogue that doesn't spoon feed exposition and subtext, skilled editing that makes the aforementioned cinematography serve some subtext, and directing that can masterfully weave it all together. Ya know -- a quality film.

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              • M MotoAsh

                Nah, they're making a joke from the misspelling.

                add: To perform addition. Or a mob joining an ongoing fight in a game.

                ad: An advertisement.

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                freddieslantern@leminal.space
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                Well looks like I’ll be having an omelette tomorrow morning on account of the egg on my face. 🤣

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                • A atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works

                  Does that include Lemmy?

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                  brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                  #94

                  Lemmy/Piefed is an echo chamber, and has some structural issues like Reddit. But there's no algo, no advertising, nor constant phone notifications.

                  And, uh, no billionaires warping "open" discourse.

                  To me, it's a time black hole, worse than old forums. But it's not nearly as bad as (say) Discord or anything Facebook owned.

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                  • M MotoAsh

                    lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

                    Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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                    madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    The Intro to the film, "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" comes to mind.

                    Great film, slow, steady, meaningful.

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                    • P potustheplant@feddit.nl

                      Not really, no. There have been plenty of tv shows for example that have been cancelled due to low audience numbers, despite being excellent. For example, In The Flesh, Mindhunter and Pushing Daisies.

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                      madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      I still mourn Kaos

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                        spacehooks@reddthat.com
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                        I decided to work from home and put fury road since I haven't seen it. 10 minutes in i logged off work early because it was good.

                        Ppl will not focus on what gives them the most enjoyment. If its the phone or Netflix.

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                          yogurt@lemmy.world
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                          The amount of reciprocal effort art is socially allowed to demand from the audience changes. The art form gets refined and people respect that and are willing to invest more attention, then at some point it's opera and nobody goes because it requires too much attention and respect. Netflix might suck but on the other hand Christopher Nolan is making movies with inaudible dialogue and Game of Thrones has invisible fight scenes because they got out of hand with it and think they can demand you only watch their thing alone in a soundproof HDR screening room.

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                          • D DeliciousDoorknob

                            It was fully happily ever after.

                            Hard disagree. Fully happily-ever-after wouldn't have ended with
                            ::: spoiler S5 finale spoilers
                            the main 16-year-old character either dying or somewhere all on her own with no family/friends/support circle, useful life skills, money or even documents to travel anywhere outside the US. While her boyfriend is stuck with depression and potentially living in delusion that she is still alive. The whole idea that El represents childhood magic and that she has to die/disappear, so other characters could move on is genuinely out of touch and potentially harmful, considering she's been "used, abused and manipulated" since she was born. Sends a real fucked up message there. This could have worked, if the show had finished in one season. But it does not work after 5 seasons of growth (though in S5 she was completely sidelined). The one character that deserved happily ever after, and they didn't give it to her. Not to mention how Vickie has been completely forgotten in the epilogue, or rather discarded with an offhanded comment about being an "overbearing significant other", when Robin has been an asshole to her the entire season.
                            :::

                            I actually would have loved a true happily-ever-after. This tired trend of every show—even something that's supposed to be lighthearted—getting a tragic or "bittersweer" ending, because that's considered "deep", should just die already.

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                            edible_funk
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                            I disagree with basically that whole interpretation. And the ending was explicitly hopeful. I think you just took it personal that what you thought was gonna happen didn't.

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                              baracoded@literature.cafe
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                              Writer insight : if people start pulling their phone when they should be watching your movie, it means your movie is shit, not that it should be made even sloppier. Watered down shit is still a shit cocktail.

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                              • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

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                                Please explain

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                                  Please explain

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                                  kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  Atomization means to atomize, your thinking of automation or automated.

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                                  • S switorik@lemmy.zip

                                    This is what kills any articles on the web. The first three paragraphs repeat the question you're looking to get answered and the last paragraph vaguely answers it.

                                    I feel like an old person now but I've started watching movies from the 90s/2000s and I can't believe how much worse movies have become over the years.

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                                    criss_cross@lemmy.world
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                                    SEO was a mistake.

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                                    • D DeliciousDoorknob

                                      The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary "LET ME EXPLAIN" scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots.

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                                      kraven_the_hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      I was complaining to my family about how El getting a bloody nose was originally used to indicate how she severely over exerted herself while using her powers. In this last season they turned it into the "I used magic and am trying to look cool" sign. I found it belittling.

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                                      • K kofe@lemmy.world

                                        Depending on what shows you watched, plenty from the 90s/00s assumed viewers wouldnt make it for the airing once a week. So they did fluff a bunch and rely on "this week's monster" rather than dense series plots. I remember despising dragon ball z (my brothers favorite) because multiple episodes would go by with fuckin NOTHING happening.

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                                        killer_tree@sh.itjust.works
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                                        I was always mad that Goku would finally make it to Namek, then for some reason next week they would time jump backwards and he'd be back in the hyperbaric training chamber. It felt like DBZ groundhog month.
                                        If you are mad about missing the actual meat of the show like I was, I highly recommend "Dragon Ball Kai" - it's DBZ with the filler removed!

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                                        • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                                          Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

                                          Make good stuff, and people will come.

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                                          lemmyseikai@lemmy.world
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                                          Good stuff is a hard marker to hit.

                                          Going back to 54% of Americans read at or below the 5th grade level (in terms of functional capacity and reaching comprehension), they need it spelled out.

                                          And this good is slowly being eroded away.

                                          Alien hardly explains anything. Alien Romulus isn't as bad as much modern cinema but explains too much sometimes

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