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GOG job listing for a Senior Software Engineer notes "Linux is the next major frontier"

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  • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

    Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

    But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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    tjsauce@lemmy.world
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    #81

    You're talking about the worst of AI, which I agree should be dismantled. There are many smaller projects that do not do the things you mentioned, and it's possible to support those while shunning corporate AI.

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    • G Goodeye8

      None of what you brought up as a positive are things an LLM does. Most of those things existed before the modern transformer-based LLMs were even a thing.

      LLM-s are glorified text prediction engines and nothing about their nature makes them excel at formal languages. It doesn't know any rules. It doesn't have any internal logic. For example if the training data consistently exhibits the same flawed piece of code then an LLM will spit out the same flawed piece of code, because that's the most likely continuation of its current "train of thought". You would have to fine-tune the model around all those flaws and then hope some combination of a prompt won't lead the model back into that flawed data.

      I've used LLMs to generate SQL, which according to you is something they should excel at, and I've had to fix literal syntax errors that would prevent the statement from executing. A regular SQL linter would instantly pick up that the SQL is wrong but an LLM can't pick up those errors because an LLM does not understand the syntax.

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      false@lemmy.world
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      I've seen humans generate code with syntax errors, try to run it, then fix it. I've seen llms do the same stuff - it does that faster than the human though

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      • T the_q@lemmy.zip

        The referenced job is clearly talking about the current over valued tech bro kind, you buffoon.

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        tjsauce@lemmy.world
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        #83

        That's only if the HR knew what they were talking about when crafting the listing. Not saying GOG will use AI for good, but we don't know if the job will require something like ChatGPT or something in-house that isn't like GPT.

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          ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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          #84

          Sure, but you take the good with the bad. Most games work, and you get to actually own a copy via GOG. Hopefully they do proper integration with Proton in the future, and this position they're hiring for may very well lead to that. There's the option to buy games through Heroic, which gives Heroic a cut of GOG sales, so I'm sure to always do that so that I send the signal to GOG what's important to me and how they can earn my whole dollar.

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            yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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            50 shades of grAI

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            • S stephen01king

              Neither does a locally run LLM model.

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              XLE
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              #86

              Hey Steven, how do you think they make those models?

              (As if you genuinely believe those are the ones GOG is using.)

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              • X XLE

                We've got studies that show AI makes you feel more productive while you're actually less productive. And all you're offering is a feeling you feel. Get high on your own supply if you want, but don't drag down good companies with your evangelism.

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                otter@lemmy.zip
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                #87

                I'm curious about these studies. Do you have a citation?

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                • T tempest@lemmy.ca

                  Honestly if part of their job is at all trying to get old shit to run on new operating systems AI is very useful for that task.

                  Part of my job is keeping a 30 year old c++ application compiling and building on newer versions of Linux. LLMs have made this a far easier experience.

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                  Cethin
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                  I don't want to say you're totally wrong, but I am skeptical of the benefit. Sure, maybe it works now, which is cool, but is it making changes that are maintainable? The next time someone does this is it going to work? If we just constantly have LLMs update code, when does it start breaking, and when it does is it going to be in a state someone can fix?

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                  • X XLE

                    There you go, predictably making more baseless claims. If these things are supposedly so great, prove it.

                    And how did you hallucinate a misspelling in my comment? Maybe take a break from Elon's CSAM bot for a while.

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                    The Octonaut
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                    #89

                    Because I typed it.

                    I don't need to prove anything, but mostly, your issue seems to be that you think a shitty in-painting image model has anything to do with the usefulness of something like Github Co-Pilot.

                    If you don't understand something it's ok not to have the edgy opinion on it by default.

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                      tomalley8342@lemmy.world
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                      #90

                      Copilot business subscriptions have fairly granular usage tracking, so they'd probably just replace you right away with someone who isn't quite so reserved. Looking at the comments here and in other places, there is certainly no shortage of such people.

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                      • O otter@lemmy.zip

                        I'm curious about these studies. Do you have a citation?

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                        ravelin@lemmy.ml
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                        #91

                        Probably referencing this:
                        https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

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                        • T tomalley8342@lemmy.world

                          Job Requirements:

                          Active use of AI tools in daily development workflows, and enthusiasm for helping the team increase adoption

                          Nice to have:

                          Passion for games and game preservation

                          AI Mandatory, game preservation optional. Glad they got their priorities straight 😅

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                          criss_cross@lemmy.world
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                          It’s kind of the new loyalty test you have to pass for companies nowadays to get a dev job.

                          “Oh yeah I love AI and want to be replaced by robots. Spank me harder daddy”.

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                          • C Cethin

                            I don't want to say you're totally wrong, but I am skeptical of the benefit. Sure, maybe it works now, which is cool, but is it making changes that are maintainable? The next time someone does this is it going to work? If we just constantly have LLMs update code, when does it start breaking, and when it does is it going to be in a state someone can fix?

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                            tempest@lemmy.ca
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                            Im not generally making source code changes. It's the dependencies.

                            Mainly we're talking about building very old versions of things like libpng. Making things like autoconf and configure and cmake all work is a pain in the ass as their versions slowly change.

                            The business would be content to let it run on Ubuntu 12 until it's a major problem so I can't let the perfect be the enemy of good.

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                            • X XLE

                              Hey Steven, how do you think they make those models?

                              (As if you genuinely believe those are the ones GOG is using.)

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                              stephen01king
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                              So you agree those models have already been made, and running them no longer require 50 exawatts of power, right?
                              Not sure why you decide to change the context to training the models instead of running it like the other guy was claiming.

                              (As if you genuinely believe those are the ones GOG is using.)

                              I thought the context was changed to general use of LLM as a tool for programmers, not specifically about GOG? Can't even double check it now because the mod removed the comment for some reason.

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                                Im not generally making source code changes. It's the dependencies.

                                Mainly we're talking about building very old versions of things like libpng. Making things like autoconf and configure and cmake all work is a pain in the ass as their versions slowly change.

                                The business would be content to let it run on Ubuntu 12 until it's a major problem so I can't let the perfect be the enemy of good.

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                                Cethin
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                                Fair enough. Probably a good use case for it. I've found it's pretty reliable at creating boilerplate. I just wouldn't trust it for doing anything important.

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                                • T tomalley8342@lemmy.world

                                  Copilot business subscriptions have fairly granular usage tracking, so they'd probably just replace you right away with someone who isn't quite so reserved. Looking at the comments here and in other places, there is certainly no shortage of such people.

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                                  HarkMahlberg
                                  wrote last edited by harkmahlberg@kbin.earth
                                  #96

                                  Wow that's pathetic. You can just smell the desperation to turn a profit, they baked their agita right into their dashboard. And it's quite the dark pattern too, in showing the administrator adoption rates, it singles out the team with the lowest adoption for harassment.

                                  Welp, there's still value in fucking with them I suppose. Send Copilot a "write me an email with no intent to send" request every so often, and you can bump your numbers up.

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