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‘Everybody’s at each other’s throats’: James Cameron says he has left the US permanently

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  • C carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works

    "At each other's throats?" 30% of the country is behaving like Nazis, others are calling them on it, and a disturbing percentage are silent. Yes I suppose more people could be silent to help preserve his feelings.

    He has the money and platform to speak out. Instead he leaves.

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    taldan@lemmy.world
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    He can still speak out just as well

    Money is also the #1 thing this adminitration cares about. Cameron taking him money, businesses, and most importantly tax dollars to NZ and Canada instead is the most impactful individual action he could do

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    • T TWeaK

      I think the opinion of those that have worked with him would be most relevant to that.

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      taldan@lemmy.world
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      That's probably the one area where he comes off most as a douche. He's notoriously demanding to work with

      He also, earlier on, had a history of less safe practices

      But I'd put him as one of the few wealthy people that actually created something others can't. His movies are a creation of his own. Not the result of inevitable scientific advancement

      OpenAI/ChatGPT was the result inevitable scientific advancement. The game changer was a publicly published academic paper (by a Google researcher), not anything Sam Altman or OpenAI did. Same can be said about a lot of modern products that created our wealthiest billionaires

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      • O oshaghennessey@lemmy.world

        America was good enough for him to stay and make millions. As soon as things aren't perfect, he wants to run to where the grass is greener. That's a good reason to be angry.

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        taldan@lemmy.world
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        Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?

        Trump cares about money and power. Taking away some money is about the strongest message a non-politician can send. It also doesn't stop him speaking out, or funding opposition. He can still do everything else

        The only real result is that the US is losing his tax dollars and businesses. That's what you're complaining about.

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        • E ecvanalog@lemmy.world

          Must be nice to have the ability to do it.

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          taldan@lemmy.world
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          There are relatively easy paths out. If you're young enough, Canada offers a working holiday visa program

          I was able to save enough and do it while working as a line cook. The most expensive part is physically moving

          We should be celebrating other people leaving. It hurts the regime.

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          • O oshaghennessey@lemmy.world

            Fuck that. Get your able-bodied ass back here and help us fix this shit, you coward!

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            taldan@lemmy.world
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            You and Trump agree on that one

            I strongly disagree. Taking his businesses and tax dollars away from the US is the most impactful individual action he could take

            He can speak out against Trump much more freely from NZ. If he stays, he's more likely to face retaliation for speaking out

            What is he going to do to fix the regime that he can't do from NZ?

            Also keep in mind he's Canadian. That makes him more vulnerable to reprisal for speaking out, but it's also not his country to fix

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            • snapz@lemmy.worldS snapz@lemmy.world

              Not really, they fired thousands of people right away to offset the cost of paying old Jim here. So he fundamentally disrupted all those lives, and the lives of the worker's dependent families, and now he's bouncing with the spoils.

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              taldan@lemmy.world
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              they fired thousands of people right away to offset the cost of paying old Jim here

              Can you substantiate your claim?

              Meta has tons of cash, so it seems unlikely they would need to lay off thousands to pay for him

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              • robocall@lemmy.worldR robocall@lemmy.world

                America needs bravery and leadership now more than ever.

                "I'm out! K thx for the millions, bye" - Cameron

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                taldan@lemmy.world
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                If he stays in the US, he would continue paying takes to the US government. By leaving he is taking away tax dollars

                What benefit is there in him staying? What could he only do from within the US?

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                  orioler25@lemmy.world
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                  Could'a helped with his hundreds of millions of dollars instead of making Unreal Engine's Smurfs and the Chamber Of White Saviours for the past twenty fucking years.

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                  • I itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world

                    He always struck me as a pussy.

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                    taldan@lemmy.world
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                    He's actually doing something. Giving up the home he has lived in for a long time

                    How does that make him a pussy?

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                      abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works
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                      Thanks for contributing to the capitalist machine and fucking off either people’s money.

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                      • T taldan@lemmy.world

                        You and Trump agree on that one

                        I strongly disagree. Taking his businesses and tax dollars away from the US is the most impactful individual action he could take

                        He can speak out against Trump much more freely from NZ. If he stays, he's more likely to face retaliation for speaking out

                        What is he going to do to fix the regime that he can't do from NZ?

                        Also keep in mind he's Canadian. That makes him more vulnerable to reprisal for speaking out, but it's also not his country to fix

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                        ronl2k@lemmy.world
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                        He can speak out against Trump much more freely from NZ.

                        Old US celebrities especially need US entertainment media attention in order to stay relevant. He's hurting himself. Nobody will miss him or his opinions, or his relatively small bank account compared to the US treasury.

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                        • T taldan@lemmy.world

                          Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?

                          Trump cares about money and power. Taking away some money is about the strongest message a non-politician can send. It also doesn't stop him speaking out, or funding opposition. He can still do everything else

                          The only real result is that the US is losing his tax dollars and businesses. That's what you're complaining about.

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                          ronl2k@lemmy.world
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                          Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?

                          America will outlast Trump. The Dems need another candidate with the campaign skills of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to make him and his followers totally forgettable. Republicans will triumph as long as the Dems keep pushing presidential candidates with weak campaign skills on us.

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                          • T taldan@lemmy.world

                            He's actually doing something. Giving up the home he has lived in for a long time

                            How does that make him a pussy?

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                            itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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                            He is running away.

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                            • T taldan@lemmy.world

                              Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?

                              Trump cares about money and power. Taking away some money is about the strongest message a non-politician can send. It also doesn't stop him speaking out, or funding opposition. He can still do everything else

                              The only real result is that the US is losing his tax dollars and businesses. That's what you're complaining about.

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                              jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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                              He could use his money to fund opposition

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                                Nico198X
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                                No one owes the US anything. It's not like this snuck up on you.

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                                • R ronl2k@lemmy.world

                                  Would you prefer he stay in the US and continue funding this regime?

                                  America will outlast Trump. The Dems need another candidate with the campaign skills of Bill Clinton or Barack Obama to make him and his followers totally forgettable. Republicans will triumph as long as the Dems keep pushing presidential candidates with weak campaign skills on us.

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                                  ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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                                  We need someone stronger than them since they still compromised with conservatives. We need someone who will control the party with an iron fist and yank everything left instead of just wanting to return to the status quo. Someone willing to tell every Republican and their supporters to go fuck themselves.

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                                  • R ronl2k@lemmy.world

                                    He can speak out against Trump much more freely from NZ.

                                    Old US celebrities especially need US entertainment media attention in order to stay relevant. He's hurting himself. Nobody will miss him or his opinions, or his relatively small bank account compared to the US treasury.

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                                    ironbird@lemmy.world
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                                    lol, delusional.
                                    man probably has the funding/connections to start a production studio wherever the fuck he wants

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                                    • O oshaghennessey@lemmy.world

                                      America was good enough for him to stay and make millions. As soon as things aren't perfect, he wants to run to where the grass is greener. That's a good reason to be angry.

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                                      jve@lemmy.world
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                                      as soon as things aren’t perfect

                                      Dumb take.

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                                      • anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA anahkiasen@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                        Exactly, in the article he sees the problem but instead of using his money to help he fucks off to be safe. He may not be an asshole but he's a a bit cowardish for it I feel even if he can still help from NZ it's more likely he will just focus on his life there than try to put out the gordian garbage fire that is the US

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                                        ronl2k@lemmy.world
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                                        Cameron will be forgotten once he leaves the Hollywood media bubble. He's never been politically influential, and his short intervals of fame relied solely on 2 movies. But his fame from Titanic and Avatar has mostly died out.

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                                        • T taldan@lemmy.world

                                          they fired thousands of people right away to offset the cost of paying old Jim here

                                          Can you substantiate your claim?

                                          Meta has tons of cash, so it seems unlikely they would need to lay off thousands to pay for him

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                                          snapz@lemmy.world
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                                          Substantiate to what end, Your Honor? Timeline is all public of their layoff timelines in their reality labs division, the partnership with Cameron on same work and the proximity between the two.

                                          Can you substantiate what you're now going to do with this information, detective?

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