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"Not A Single Pixel" Of The New Ecco Game Will Be Generated By AI, Insists Series Creator

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  • F frongt@lemmy.zip

    Unfortunately you are not, that's what most people do. We should all be including ethics in our purchases.

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    grimy@lemmy.world
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    I do include ethics in my decisions. My ethics simply aren't dictated by copyright juggernauts.

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    • G grimy@lemmy.world

      I do include ethics in my decisions. My ethics simply aren't dictated by copyright juggernauts.

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      frongt@lemmy.zip
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      So all the individual artists who had their work scraped are juggernauts?

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      • F frongt@lemmy.zip

        So all the individual artists who had their work scraped are juggernauts?

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        grimy@lemmy.world
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        #29

        No. DeviantArt, Universal, Disney, Shutterstock, Instagram and friends are the juggernauts. Artists already gave it all away.

        There isn't a scenario where individual artists get a piece of that money. Legislation, if it comes, will protect data aggregators, record companies and Hollywood, with the aim of killing open source.

        Google paid 60$ million for Reddit's data and I still haven't received my dollar. Google would also love it if training a model costs so much only they could afford to build a legal one.

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        • SundrayS Sundray

          Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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          thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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          #30

          Not a single pixel. So they will not generate a single pixel, but multiple pixels?

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          • G grimy@lemmy.world

            I guess I'm an outlier, I judge games on if they are fun to play.

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            greenknight23@lemmy.world
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            AI is fascist. anything that uses AI supports fascism.

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            • SundrayS Sundray

              Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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              Noxy
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              #32

              I'm so fucking pumped for new Ecco games. I loved the original on Genesis and it's about damn time we get some fresh stuff in the series.

              Even better with this statement

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              • NoxyN Noxy

                I'm so fucking pumped for new Ecco games. I loved the original on Genesis and it's about damn time we get some fresh stuff in the series.

                Even better with this statement

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                massive_bereavement
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                I hope they make an effort with the soundtrack. For me that was a big highlight on all games (specially Sega CD).

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                • G grimy@lemmy.world

                  No. DeviantArt, Universal, Disney, Shutterstock, Instagram and friends are the juggernauts. Artists already gave it all away.

                  There isn't a scenario where individual artists get a piece of that money. Legislation, if it comes, will protect data aggregators, record companies and Hollywood, with the aim of killing open source.

                  Google paid 60$ million for Reddit's data and I still haven't received my dollar. Google would also love it if training a model costs so much only they could afford to build a legal one.

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                  frongt@lemmy.zip
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                  So it's okay to steal their work for AI and commercial profit because they posted it on the internet?

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                  • SundrayS Sundray

                    Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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                    itkovian@lemmy.world
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                    I knew that "No AI used" is going to become a huge selling point for many products. And I think this is just the start.

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                    • F frongt@lemmy.zip

                      So it's okay to steal their work for AI and commercial profit because they posted it on the internet?

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                      grimy@lemmy.world
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                      #36

                      I'm saying they stopped owning it the moment they put it on the big websites and signed away their work by clicking the box at the end of the ToS. I don't think it's right, just how it is.

                      I see two choices:

                      1. Scrapping isn't considered theft and we all get easy access to these new tools.

                      2. It's considered theft and the new tools end up behind censored subscription models while shutter stock makes a shit load of money.

                      Paying every artists what they are worth is a logistical nightmare because of the amount of data needed. It simply won't happen and isn't a realistic scenario. It sucks but sticking your head in the sand and giving a soft monopoly to google and openai only helps google and openai.

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                      • thingsiplay@lemmy.mlT thingsiplay@lemmy.ml

                        Not a single pixel. So they will not generate a single pixel, but multiple pixels?

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                        imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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                        Found the lawyer.

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                        • SundrayS Sundray

                          Good to know, but sad that it has to be said.

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                          FunkyCheese
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                          What about the code?

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                            solidsmoke@lemmy.world
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                            Undercaves song goes so hard

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                            • N FunkyCheese

                              What about the code?

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                              cluckn@lemmy.world
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                              Written by an actual dolphin

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                              • J janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world

                                Not a single one. In fact it will be nothing less than all of the one's

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                                Sundray
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                                The zeros will be hand-made, however.

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                                • G grimy@lemmy.world

                                  I guess I'm an outlier, I judge games on if they are fun to play.

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                                  bananaisaberry@lemmy.zip
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                                  Welcome to lemmy, your only allowed response to anything AI related is "AI bad", otherwise the 20 or so people who actually use this platform will downvote your comment.

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                                  • G grimy@lemmy.world

                                    I'm saying they stopped owning it the moment they put it on the big websites and signed away their work by clicking the box at the end of the ToS. I don't think it's right, just how it is.

                                    I see two choices:

                                    1. Scrapping isn't considered theft and we all get easy access to these new tools.

                                    2. It's considered theft and the new tools end up behind censored subscription models while shutter stock makes a shit load of money.

                                    Paying every artists what they are worth is a logistical nightmare because of the amount of data needed. It simply won't happen and isn't a realistic scenario. It sucks but sticking your head in the sand and giving a soft monopoly to google and openai only helps google and openai.

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                                    noja@sopuli.xyz
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                                    I hope your boss won't pay you, because that honestly sounds like a logistical nightmare! They'd need like specialized employees and stuff to pay people! Craaazy!

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                                    • C cia_chatbot@lemmy.world

                                      Oh god this is going to be awesome to watch this crash and burn

                                      Edit: Oh god I read it wrong, I thought it said the whole thing was going to be generated by AI

                                      Leaving this as proof of my shame

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                                      thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                                      Why do you want it to fail? I'm so happy that Sega is one of the companies who does games that are not mainstream boring stuff. In fact, this is something I would expect from a small indie team. Shouldn't we celebrate that and support?

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                                      • A Amoxtli

                                        Work smarter, not harder.

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                                        thingsiplay@lemmy.ml
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                                        Work smart and hard. 🙂

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                                        • N noja@sopuli.xyz

                                          I hope your boss won't pay you, because that honestly sounds like a logistical nightmare! They'd need like specialized employees and stuff to pay people! Craaazy!

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                                          grimy@lemmy.world
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                                          Bruh, stable diffusion was trained on billions of images, with their owners spanning the globe. My work has about 300 employees all living in one city and it still take a few separate teams with multiple people each to handle it.

                                          You're simply an idiot if you think it isn't a nightmare imo. Think before you speak please.

                                          Take a napkin and do some math on how much you think each image is worth and what kind of budget a company would need to put out a model. Ignore the logistics completely.

                                          Google doesn't mind paying that price because they can recoup it with the monopoly it gives them. You guys are basically begging for a handful of companies to have it all, begging for walled gardens. Legit bootlicking.

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