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Bluesky just verified ICE

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  • optissima@lemmy.worldO optissima@lemmy.world

    Bold of you to assume this person thinks /j

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    saylesss88@eviltoast.org
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    #184

    Good one.......... Let's only suppress speach we dont like... Take off your progressive glasses and look at what happened then vs. now. If you honestly did, you'd see how lazy of an argument it is.

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    • S saylesss88@eviltoast.org

      The claim that Bluesky "verifies Nazis" because ICE got a blue check is peak absurdity—it's a government agency enforcing immigration law, not goose-stepping brownshirts.

      Verification confirms identity/authenticity (anti-impersonation), not endorsement, letting users freely mute/block ICE while spotting fakes (pro/anti-ICE sock puppets).

      To the history blind people comparing ICE to Nazis, If ICE were "Nazis," 2025 inauguration riots get crushed Day 1 with tanks, not due process.

      Reality: routine deportations ≠ death camps.

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      P03 Locke
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      it’s a government agency enforcing immigration law, not goose-stepping brownshirts.

      "Enforcing immigration law" = Deporting anybody they think looks too brown

      And yes, they are goose-stepping brownshirts, or at least they wish they were.

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      • M massi1008@lemmy.world

        The only thing I love more than government censoring my internet is corporations censoring my internet 🥰

        (You, apparently)

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        metastatistical@lemmy.zip
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        #186

        Paradox of Tolerance

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        • S saylesss88@eviltoast.org

          Good one.......... Let's only suppress speach we dont like... Take off your progressive glasses and look at what happened then vs. now. If you honestly did, you'd see how lazy of an argument it is.

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          optissima@lemmy.world
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          #187

          Fixed it for you because you can't recognize the difference between a joke and an argument

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          • S saylesss88@eviltoast.org

            The claim that Bluesky "verifies Nazis" because ICE got a blue check is peak absurdity—it's a government agency enforcing immigration law, not goose-stepping brownshirts.

            Verification confirms identity/authenticity (anti-impersonation), not endorsement, letting users freely mute/block ICE while spotting fakes (pro/anti-ICE sock puppets).

            To the history blind people comparing ICE to Nazis, If ICE were "Nazis," 2025 inauguration riots get crushed Day 1 with tanks, not due process.

            Reality: routine deportations ≠ death camps.

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            optissima@lemmy.world
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            #188

            routine deportations ≠ death camps

            You're right, but I do think the deaths in the death camps make them death camps.

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            • S saylesss88@eviltoast.org

              Good one.......... Let's only suppress speach we dont like... Take off your progressive glasses and look at what happened then vs. now. If you honestly did, you'd see how lazy of an argument it is.

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              optissima@lemmy.world
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              Going to go a step further to point out that freedom of speech only applies to people, not organizations. Put on your reading comprehension glasses and see how lazy of a thinker you are.

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              • 7 7101334@lemmy.world

                ICE's mere existence is discriminatory and providing them with any platform whatsoever, including a platform where they're forced to feign some degree of legitimacy, furthers that fundamental purpose. You are defending the right of Nazis to do Nazi shit.

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                Pirate2377
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                #190

                So I assume you'd be for banning the White House account on Bluesky as well? They're controlled by the fascists right now after all. The New York Times has promoted transphobia in the past and they have a verified Bluesky account. Should they be banned too?

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                • Pirate2377P Pirate2377

                  So I assume you'd be for banning the White House account on Bluesky as well? They're controlled by the fascists right now after all. The New York Times has promoted transphobia in the past and they have a verified Bluesky account. Should they be banned too?

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                  7101334@lemmy.world
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                  #191

                  Hell yeah let's ban the White House and mainstream media too, now you're getting it! NYT and most mainstream media outlets are also guilty of pro-genocide propaganda.

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                  • 7 7101334@lemmy.world

                    Hell yeah let's ban the White House and mainstream media too, now you're getting it! NYT and most mainstream media outlets are also guilty of pro-genocide propaganda.

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                    #192

                    Sounds like one hell of an ecochamber they'd be creating if Bluesky was that strict about it. Guess we really are just segregating polticial ideologies into different platforms now so everyone can continue to become radicalized into opposite directions until there's no choice but to fight a Civil War to defeat the fascists.

                    Oh well, I prefer Mastodon myself. Personally, I only really use Bluesky for following content creators I like. Unfortunately, the chances of someone having a Mastodon account is rare right now (at least in my experience, but I'm still relatively new to the fediverse). I'd rather not be greeted with CSAM whilst doing the same for X anymore. We can at least agree that X should no longer be considered at all.

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                    • Pirate2377P Pirate2377

                      Sounds like one hell of an ecochamber they'd be creating if Bluesky was that strict about it. Guess we really are just segregating polticial ideologies into different platforms now so everyone can continue to become radicalized into opposite directions until there's no choice but to fight a Civil War to defeat the fascists.

                      Oh well, I prefer Mastodon myself. Personally, I only really use Bluesky for following content creators I like. Unfortunately, the chances of someone having a Mastodon account is rare right now (at least in my experience, but I'm still relatively new to the fediverse). I'd rather not be greeted with CSAM whilst doing the same for X anymore. We can at least agree that X should no longer be considered at all.

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                      7101334@lemmy.world
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                      #193

                      Yes, Nazis should be segregated and isolated. Just Nazis, not all "political ideologies". If that's an echo chamber, then ECHOO-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOO mf.

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                      • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                        They've been given a platform to spread their hate. Yes.

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                        keenflame@feddit.nu
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                        How can you be sure?

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                        • green_red_blackG green_red_black

                          As fun trolling Fascists is the point is to get them to go away and never come back.

                          Giving them a verified account is counter to that goal

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                          keenflame@feddit.nu
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                          #195

                          No, it validates that the information is from a real source when they get banned for hate crimes and the actual real ability for that to happen is much, much more important than the actual minimal dampening of propaganda this proposed solution achieves

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                          • K keenflame@feddit.nu

                            No, it validates that the information is from a real source when they get banned for hate crimes and the actual real ability for that to happen is much, much more important than the actual minimal dampening of propaganda this proposed solution achieves

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                            green_red_black
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                            #196

                            Maybe but I have a better idea…don’t give them an account whatsoever.

                            They want a microblog they can make it themselves.

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                            • K keenflame@feddit.nu

                              How can you be sure?

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                              ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                              #197

                              They're verified.

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                              • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                                They're verified.

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                                keenflame@feddit.nu
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                                How is being verified spreading hate?

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                                • K keenflame@feddit.nu

                                  How is being verified spreading hate?

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                                  ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                                  Verifying a hate group and letting them remain on your platform allows them to spread hate.

                                  I know you get this. You're just wasting my time by playing dumb, so I'm out.

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                                  • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                                    Verifying a hate group and letting them remain on your platform allows them to spread hate.

                                    I know you get this. You're just wasting my time by playing dumb, so I'm out.

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                                    keenflame@feddit.nu
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                                    You don't understand. You are dumb to be out. It's their hateful message and entire outfit, and those don't disappear from not existing in your comfort phone pacer feed. They disappear by being deleted WHILE VERIFIED so everyone understands the message. You are blind and entirely a fool

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                                    • green_red_blackG green_red_black

                                      Maybe but I have a better idea…don’t give them an account whatsoever.

                                      They want a microblog they can make it themselves.

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                                      keenflame@feddit.nu
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                                      #201

                                      And soon you understand. Which is best????? Please wake up to moves and Intelligence beyond one step forward, please just this once

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                                      • K keenflame@feddit.nu

                                        You don't understand. You are dumb to be out. It's their hateful message and entire outfit, and those don't disappear from not existing in your comfort phone pacer feed. They disappear by being deleted WHILE VERIFIED so everyone understands the message. You are blind and entirely a fool

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                                        ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                                        #202

                                        Stop using abuse to try to bait me into further interaction. You just want nazis to have as wide an audience as possible.

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                                        • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                                          Stop using abuse to try to bait me into further interaction. You just want nazis to have as wide an audience as possible.

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                                          keenflame@feddit.nu
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                                          #203

                                          Your method of removing nazism is what enables them, try to mature so we can fight them together. Idiotic offensives are completely useless, there's real need in the streets now for fucks sake and you're still whining online about your comfort social media imagined slights instead of doing anything

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