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Do we need more users ?

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  • B bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works

    Lemmy has neither.

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    kekzkrieger@feddit.org
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    I disagree, ive had more useful discussion here than anywhere on the internet in a while.

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    • S supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz

      I agree, I think something that has been lost in conversation about progressive politics and leftism more broadly (in US-centric circles at least) is that as much as people on the left disagree about absolutely everything, in general (with plenty of exceptions) politically left movements and cultural spaces tend to be far better at identifying common values and truths that are universal and holding individuals and communities to those values and truths.

      Whereas on the right the endless stumping about valuing freedom of speech turns out to mostly be a mirage when it comes to innocent, vulnerable people being physically murdered on camera by the state, on the left institutions and individuals are much more often held to a standard of values and called out if they fail to reach it.

      When people enter a space where progressive and left voices haven't been systematically silenced and it is a new experience for them, they often react negatively and feel rebuked. I know some of my first encounters when I was younger with actually left spaces initially made me bristle with how willing they were to say no to things that weren't healthy, to challenge oppressive structures even if they were so normalized they were invisible to me... it can be an uncomfortable process but ultimately more often than not leftist spaces actually try to do it and it that is a good thing.

      I entirely agree with people having agency to decide when politics comes up on their feed and when it doesn't, but the idea that we are all just being a bit too negative and obsessed with the news and we should cheer up is honestly insulting in 2026 given, you know gestures at everything. Everything is political, if you have the capacity to complain about being subject to "too much politics" be thankful for your capacity to experience that state of choice.

      Also, and this is on a personal note, talking about politics doesn't make me depressed, it helps me feel less depressed and anxious because I know other people feel similarly and the more educated I am about what is happening the less scared and confused I feel.

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      bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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      Leftist spaces have changed a lot over the last two decades. Not for the better.

      Cancel Culture Culture is real and extremely aggressive among the left.

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      • K kekzkrieger@feddit.org

        I disagree, ive had more useful discussion here than anywhere on the internet in a while.

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        bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works
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        What communities can you recommend?

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        • K kekzkrieger@feddit.org

          I disagree, ive had more useful discussion here than anywhere on the internet in a while.

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          knexcar@lemmy.world
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          #144

          All I see is about 60% general news/politics (pointing out the obvious, Trump bad, ICE bad, America is dumb, people should be rioting in the streets from all the bad things, capitalism bad), 30% Linux/FOSS circlejerk (don’t use Chrome, use Firefox, don’t use Firefox, use Librewolf, don’t use AI, Linux always works out of the box and is so easy to use even a grandparent can do it, it also has an App Store, oh you had an error with the App Store just start typing black magic into the command line, and don’t use snaps, I use arch BTW), and 10% low effort memes (Greentext, ADHD memes, usually generic and low effort). None of these are particularly plentiful — except for the fact that they’re the ONLY content seemingly available — and none are high quality either. I don’t ever see any Cities: Skylines content for instance, let alone Workers and Resources. Have to go to Reddit for that.

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            Let's keep it just under critical mass for Eternal September to not happen.

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            knexcar@lemmy.world
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            That was over 30 years ago, longer than I’ve been alive. I just want niche communities to subscribe to (Cities: Skylines, model trains, Madison WI) instead of the constant barrage of generic politics, Linux obsession, and low effort memes.

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            • D damage@feddit.it

              Linux is too mainstream nowadays, I'm moving to FreeBSD

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              fenderstratocaster@lemmy.world
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              That's a little to popular for me. I'm starting a JavaOS revolution.

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              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                how comes i never see it? did i block it accidentally?

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                tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                you're on a different instance

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                • OpenStarsO OpenStars

                  Try PieFed. The reason you keep seeing furry content on Lemmy is that you are forced into browsing "All" in order to see some new content, but then you don't like some of the new content that you see.

                  On PieFed with categories of communities (instance-defined Topic areas and user Feeds that are user-customizeable and shareable) you can have your cake (have a tight Subscribed feed, e.g. without being subscribed to any politics communities if you wanted) but then also eat it too (news & politics content is but a click away, or movies & TV).

                  Combining together comments across all cross-posts also helps a lot with community discovery. I haven't searched by All in a long time, unless I just felt nostalgic and wanted to, but there is no longer any need with this new model.

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                  tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                  #148

                  piefed is full of memes. i hate it.

                  i also am annoyed at having it constantly shrilled at me. i am thinking about blocking it.

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                  • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                    piefed is full of memes. i hate it.

                    i also am annoyed at having it constantly shrilled at me. i am thinking about blocking it.

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                    Skavau
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                    Without trying to shill it to you, it has the same content you would see on lemmy.world. It's no more memey than lemmy.world.

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                    • S Skavau

                      Without trying to shill it to you, it has the same content you would see on lemmy.world. It's no more memey than lemmy.world.

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                      tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                      that isn't true. anytime i have gone there it's WAY more memey. it looks more like mastrodon/twitter than reddit.

                      I am not interesting in meme platforms.

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                      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de

                        Efi System Partition 32 bit?

                        i remember writing code for the ESP boot system

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                        yiddishmcsquidish@lemmy.today
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                        #151

                        I'm not sure what it stands for, but it's essentially a very powerful Arduino with wireless networking capabilities. I think the "e" is for espresif who manufactures it. I could be wrong though. Irregardless, look into it! Very cool little chip!

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                        • K knexcar@lemmy.world

                          That was over 30 years ago, longer than I’ve been alive. I just want niche communities to subscribe to (Cities: Skylines, model trains, Madison WI) instead of the constant barrage of generic politics, Linux obsession, and low effort memes.

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                          That was over 30 years ago

                          It was over 30 years ago that the term was coined. As a concept, it happens all the time. It happened with Reddit multiple times.

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                          • lerbaB lerba

                            The amount of furry / anime content on the front page might be putting off some new users

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                            wrote last edited by kolanaki@pawb.social
                            #153

                            I am literally on a furry instance, I subscrube to most furry and a lot of anime comms, and I don't block NSFW content; I rarely if ever see furry or anime content on the front page and yet I see this said a lot on Lemmy.

                            Where is it? Where is all this furry content? I specifically requested it and it doesn't exist. 😬

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                            • T tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world

                              that isn't true. anytime i have gone there it's WAY more memey. it looks more like mastrodon/twitter than reddit.

                              I am not interesting in meme platforms.

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                              Skavau
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                              This makes no sense. How you interpret the design doesn't come into it. You know piefed.social (the largest instance) shows the same communities as lemmy.world, right? Show me a meme community that apparently only exists as viewed from piefed.social.

                              You might be seeing it via card mode rather than compact mode.

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                                That was over 30 years ago

                                It was over 30 years ago that the term was coined. As a concept, it happens all the time. It happened with Reddit multiple times.

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                                knexcar@lemmy.world
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                                #155

                                Yeah, it’s happened multiple times that a website has reached critical mass such that normal people start joining and posting a variety of interests, rather than just non-stop posting about their super duper hardened non-fingerprintable self hosted LibreWolf instance with VPN to prevent those dirty big tech companies from stealing their precious browsing history data. No one will ever know how much they prefer AMD cards over NVIDIA and that they use Arch BTW! And general news and politics (Capitalism Bad™).

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                                • S Skavau

                                  This makes no sense. How you interpret the design doesn't come into it. You know piefed.social (the largest instance) shows the same communities as lemmy.world, right? Show me a meme community that apparently only exists as viewed from piefed.social.

                                  You might be seeing it via card mode rather than compact mode.

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                                  tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                                  i am not using piefed. maybe it's better for admins, but I'm not an admin.

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                                  • K knexcar@lemmy.world

                                    Yeah, it’s happened multiple times that a website has reached critical mass such that normal people start joining and posting a variety of interests, rather than just non-stop posting about their super duper hardened non-fingerprintable self hosted LibreWolf instance with VPN to prevent those dirty big tech companies from stealing their precious browsing history data. No one will ever know how much they prefer AMD cards over NVIDIA and that they use Arch BTW! And general news and politics (Capitalism Bad™).

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                                    • Scotty_TreesS Scotty_Trees

                                      I’m kinda bummed more people from Reddit didn’t come here after the exodus. But I guess it’s a Catch-22 thing cause that could’ve been all kinds of good or all kinds of bad so who knows so he’s starting off fresh and slow. It’s kind of the best way to go maybe

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                                      tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                                      #158

                                      a lot of people who came here are the insufferable types from reddit who think it's their 'duty' to harass and shit on anyone who dares hold a different view of the world than they do, or who is more open minded than 'anyone i don't like is a nazi'.

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                                      • Iced RaktajinoI Iced Raktajino

                                        Look at it from a new user's perspective; someone who has not curated their feed or otherwise "made the fediverse what they want" yet. e.g. They land on Lemmy World or another big instance and their default sort is "active". Doing that now in an incognito window, and half the front page is rage, same on the second, and the stuff that's not are some random shitposts and Linux filling in.

                                        Truth be told, looking at that, I probably wouldn't want to sign up. Especially if I didn't know that different instances have different cultures, etc.

                                        Assuming they're a normie (which we desperately fucking need here), I just don't see that they'd want to stick around. Aside from trolls and spammers, the only people we seem to consistently attract here are the "Wah wah I was banned from Reddit" types and, while there's certainly a sizable pool to draw from, I wouldn't exactly consider them the pick of the litter for growing the fediverse.

                                        The point of OPs post is that usage here is declining, and I am simply pointing out that I feel all the rage and politics is not particularly inviting.

                                        Edit: And you know what? I'm just going to fucking say it. There's too many armchair activists here who won't let you enjoy a single moment without reminding you that something bad is happening somewhere in the world and that you have some kind of moral obligation to be angry all the time about it. And if you're not angry all the time then you're somehow part of the problem.

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                                        tubulartittyfrog@lemmy.world
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                                        Edit: And you know what? I’m just going to fucking say it. There’s too many armchair activists here who won’t let you enjoy a single moment without reminding you that something bad is happening somewhere in the world and that you have some kind of moral obligation to be angry all the time about it. And if you’re not angry all the time then you’re somehow part of the problem.

                                        Amen.

                                        I am so sick of being lectured by some weirdo about 'WHY AREN'T YOU DOING ANYTHING'. It's nothing more than them projecting their pathetic helpless miserable life onto others. 'if you dont' support my pet issue than you are a morally bankrupt person!'

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                                        • rakoR rako

                                          Following https://tarte.nuage-libre.fr/c/fediverse/p/194717/we-need-more-users I decided to explore data a little bit more. I'm not the biggest fan of growth-as-as-target so I wanted to see how much the people were participating in the discussion.

                                          The data

                                          I took the data from the API explorer in https://api.fediverse.observer/ with this query:

                                          query {  
                                            monthlystats {  
                                              date_checked  
                                              softwarename  
                                              total_posts  
                                              total_users  
                                              total_comments  
                                            }  
                                          }  
                                          

                                          Then parsed the json with this https://jqlang.org/ filter:

                                          jq '.data.monthlystats | map(select(.total_users > 0 and (.softwarename == "lemmy" or .softwarename == "mbin" or .softwarename == "kbin" or .softwarename == "piefed"))) | group_by(.date_checked) | map( {date_checked: .[0].date_checked, total_users: ([.[] | .total_users] | add), total_posts: ([.[] | .total_posts] | add), total_comments: ([.[] | .total_comments] | add)}) | map({date_checked, posts: .total_posts/.total_users, comments: .total_comments/.total_users}) | sort_by(.date_checked) | map([.date_checked, (.posts | tostring), (.comments | tostring)]) | .[] | @csv'  
                                          

                                          (As you see I filtered for the threadiverse. I also did the same with all software, I'll put the graph for that in comments)

                                          Then did a good old' chart

                                          What to think of it

                                          I don't know. Users' activity is on the rise and I find it nice

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                                          greenbeard@lemmy.zip
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                                          I think more isers would be good, though I like how the fediverse is right now. It's small, but it has enough content to have me coming back, but not so much that I'll spend the entire day browsing.

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