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Rhea Seehorn Wins Golden Globe for Best Actress in a TV Drama "Pluribus"

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  • V visstix@lemmy.world

    The show is a metaphor for AI.

    The indian mother can't accept that the chatbot isn't an actual person (her son is not her son).

    The guy flying Airforce One knows what's up and loves it, just taking full advantage of it.

    The guy from south america hates modern technology and doesn't trust it. And his life is now fucked because everything relies on it.

    Carol is a writer, and AI is basically stealing people like her's jobs in real life.
    They show how she loses her life that she knows differently in the show, but she hates it just the same. And she has a reason to hate it.

    The whole part about them starving in 10 years cause they can't create new food is AI not being able to self sustain if everything is AI cause there would be nothing AI can learn from.

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    small_quasar@lemmy.world
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    Hmm. There's a guy at my work who has fully adopted AI. He has no issues with using it to write and happily consumes AI content.

    I got him into Pluribus. And although he enjoyed it he couldn't understand Carol's hostility to the hive. When I pointed out we would gain utopia at the cost of human culture he just shrugged.

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    • SternS Stern

      In some regards you're right, in matters of paychecks though, being a emmy/golden globe/oscar winner deffo helps, as they can and will advertise with it.

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      savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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      #38

      Those awards are an industry trying to remain relevant. None one in that universe of Vince Gilligan would win anything without Vince Gilligan's writing and directing.

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      • S small_quasar@lemmy.world

        So you'd rather take a baby and throw it off a cliff?!?!?

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        flexibletoast@lemmy.world
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        #39

        It would be biblical

        Blessed is he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

        English Standard Version Psalm 137:9

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        • tetris11@feddit.ukT tetris11@feddit.uk

          Also, she is legitimately a terrible person, right?

          That is the point the show is trying to convey?

          She strikes me as a "I want mine, fuck yours" type of character.

          I could not find myself liking her

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          atro_city
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          The entire story seems to be "I'm unhappy, so nobody should be happy". Amazing show 👏 Had she been a side-character, OK, but to making her the main character is just completely boring. What are we going to have this episode, oh another tirade? How original. Maybe we'll have her nearly find love again but some even will remind her that she has to be unhappy!

          The only interesting thing the show has going for it is the mind meld, but beyond that it's just a tiresome show. If I wanted to watch people have no hope, I'd watch the news about the US.

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          • S Skavau

            Pluribus is not meant to be a comedy.

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            atro_city
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            #41

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluribus_(TV_series) - Genre: Black Comedy

            https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22202452 - Dark Comedy

            Yes, they completely missed the mark.

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            • S scrion@lemmy.world

              You're not supposed to like Carol Sturka, so great - the writing worked.

              I consider Pluribus to be one the really great shows in the last decade, and I also do not like Carol. Often, I'm annoyed by her actions, and once or twice I was really pissed at how she interacted with the Others, because IMHO, there was just so much unnecessary hostility, or she was just being a dense cunt.

              Why would a movie, a TV show or a play require the audience to like the protagonist? Outside of these fictional depictions, I'd probably not be acquainted with someone like Carol - but here, I want to watch her. I want to see how she deals with the overall situation, how choices made by someone who is fundamentally different from me play out, how she grows as a character, how she overcomes her flaws, of which there are many, or how she might completely fail. There even is the option I eventually grow to like her. Wouldn't that be great, an actual character arc?

              Carol is an alcoholic who doubts her self-worth and has just lost her love, a death which she directly blames on what she considers to be the alien invaders she now has to interact with on a daily basis. She was also recently promoted to one of the greatest mass murderers in history and the isolation she suffered as consequence of her actions made her realize she really can't exist in complete solitude, leading to a complex relationship with an entity she wants to hate. I think she deserves some jagged edges.

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              GreyEyedGhost
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              This is great science fiction. All good science fiction asks a question, which is essentially, "What would it be like for people if the world were like this?" It can be a small thing, like a decision to have everyone die at a certain age, or in this case, what if everyone else was part of a group/hive mind. This gives you a space to explore the human condition, sometimes to the point of what even is a person. One of the knock-on effects is, this strongly independent person gets to realize she is and has always been dependent on multitudes of people she never even sees, just like us. That's what civilization is, and they spend just a few minutes on that particular part in the second episode, perhaps elsewhere (I'm on episode 3). It's an uncomfortable thought for some people, particularly Americans and their fierce individuality. And it's very clear from the name on out that individuality is going to be the subject of the entire show. It's a pretty relevant topic in our increasingly connected and interdependent world.

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              • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                Those awards are an industry trying to remain relevant. None one in that universe of Vince Gilligan would win anything without Vince Gilligan's writing and directing.

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                Stern
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                #43

                Which, again, doesn't change the fact that folks who get them earn more money after doing so.

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                  selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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                  No, not a comedy. Or a bad comedy and she a lousy comedian. She acts on the verge because it's a fringe situation starting simultaneously with loosing her SO, it didn't seem weird to me. Also, as I'm watching it, not a drama, maybe a sad satire. Entertaining until now.

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                    Skavau
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                    I don't really care what Wikipedia says. It just flat out isn't a comedy. That it has some comedic elements doesn't make it a comedy.

                    Also, IMDB keywords system is worse than awful dude. It has no oversight. I once saw a Sonic the Hedgehog show tagged as Cyberpunk.

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                      tetris11@feddit.uk
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                      I'm hoping she grows in the next season, but not holding my breath

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                      • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                        Well no, she got a healthy fan base and a big paycheck from Better Call Saul, and hundreds of job offers.

                        These stupid awards are not important.

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                        artyom
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                        #47

                        They might not be important to you, but they are important to a lot of people, first and foremost to the recipients they honor.

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                        • S savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca

                          Those awards are an industry trying to remain relevant. None one in that universe of Vince Gilligan would win anything without Vince Gilligan's writing and directing.

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                          artyom
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                          And VG wouldn't win anything without their acting.

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                            I don't really care what Wikipedia says. It just flat out isn't a comedy. That it has some comedic elements doesn't make it a comedy.

                            Also, IMDB keywords system is worse than awful dude. It has no oversight. I once saw a Sonic the Hedgehog show tagged as Cyberpunk.

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                            shbi7368@sh.itjust.works
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                            Lol cyberpunk

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                            • S shbi7368@sh.itjust.works

                              Lol cyberpunk

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                              shbi7368@sh.itjust.works
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                              LOL
                              /blade runner music/
                              /dooommmm/

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                              • D DagwoodIII

                                I rewatched Season 1 of Severance in the runup to Season 2.

                                If a show is strong, a rewatch enhances the experience. You notice details you might have missed.

                                I mean, how many people here post about how many times they've seen LOTR?

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                                selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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                                Sadly, most of the time, second seasons are lately sucking big time.

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                                  Sadly, most of the time, second seasons are lately sucking big time.

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                                  DagwoodIII
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                                  I can strongly recommend 'Severance'

                                  Season 2 had some wild stuff, and set up Season 3 very well.

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                                  • ? Guest

                                    Pffffttttt!!! You have it easy!!! I've been waiting nearly a quarter century for season two of the best big damn heroes show ever made. No end for the wait in sight, I'm afraid.

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                                    Ricky Rigatoni
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                                    Teen titans had 5 seasons

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                                    • Z z3rOR0ne

                                      Lol, no, I meant the book series. Totally agree on the show, that actually did deserve way more time in the oven to cook.

                                      All I'm pointing out is the waiting game can get ridiculous like waiting over a decade for an author to create, granted, a very well done story, while said author goes off to work on other shit cuz he got bored or intimidated or whatever.

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                                      Ronan
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                                      Regardinf GoT, they could’ve also just waited until the books’ story had finished. It was a risk they took.

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                                      • F flexibletoast@lemmy.world

                                        The problem this show will have is the same problem all Apple+ shows have. We'll have to wait multiple years for season 2 and we'll have forgotten what happened in season 1 or just forget about the show entirely.

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                                        Ankkuli
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                                        Slow Horses doesn’t exist?

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                                        • artyomA artyom

                                          They might not be important to you, but they are important to a lot of people, first and foremost to the recipients they honor.

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                                          djsoren19
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                                          My parents both have an Emmy.

                                          Mom can't find work in the industry anymore, she got cut by execs that want to go all in on AI. I think my dad keeps his in the bathroom. Both of them would rather have gotten better pay or a bonus than the statuette.

                                          I think you've gotta be really vain to care that much about the award.

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