A Baldur's Gate HBO series is in the works, will be set directly after Baldur's Gate 3 with new and returning characters
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We've had a pretty good hit rate with video game adaptations lately. Fallout and Arcane are both among my favorite TV shows. I think we finally got far enough along that show runners are gamers themselves and aware of what makes these things good and what needs to change to be a good show.
I kind of refuse to watch Fallout. Partly because I read they fucked up the NCR. But also Amazon sucks , and Bethesda is kind of creatively bankrupt.
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Saw a video about comedies from the early 2000's and some of the old heads were talking about how they didn't need IP's cuz the actors and the situation was all they needed. Paul Rudd has to do community service watching a kid. Jason Segal got dumped and goes on vacation to try and forget about his ex. Steve Carell is a virgin at 40, etc etc. It's crazy that every studio now seems to NEED an IP or else they can't make a movie.
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I kind of refuse to watch Fallout. Partly because I read they fucked up the NCR. But also Amazon sucks , and Bethesda is kind of creatively bankrupt.
To each their own, but I thought they completely nailed the tone, respectfully incorporated the established fiction, and even wrote some great new characters.
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To each their own, but I thought they completely nailed the tone, respectfully incorporated the established fiction, and even wrote some great new characters.
What made new Vegas interesting was that it's not just another kitschy wasteland romp. It's post-post-apocalypse, and it asks who rebuilds after.
My limited understanding is the TV show nuked the NCR so they could do more wasteland theme park, and not continue that train of thought. But also didn't just set it somewhere else.
But admittedly I haven't actually watched it.
But also, again, trying to make a TV show intersect with a video game with multiple endings is a foolish idea. You won't make everyone happy, and it's an entirely avoidable problem. They could've just set the show in a different part of the world that hasn't had a game.
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What made new Vegas interesting was that it's not just another kitschy wasteland romp. It's post-post-apocalypse, and it asks who rebuilds after.
My limited understanding is the TV show nuked the NCR so they could do more wasteland theme park, and not continue that train of thought. But also didn't just set it somewhere else.
But admittedly I haven't actually watched it.
But also, again, trying to make a TV show intersect with a video game with multiple endings is a foolish idea. You won't make everyone happy, and it's an entirely avoidable problem. They could've just set the show in a different part of the world that hasn't had a game.
Video games sequeling other choice-based video games run into the same issue, and you quickly forget once you're in it that maybe you treated Shady Sands differently than the canonized decision about it. As it takes place further in the future than any of the games, it acknowledges what happened in their past, creates new events that happened since we last saw them, and also steers them in new directions, because people change, and the old leaders would have long since been replaced by new ones. That's all just part of continuing a story. The only way to avoid having to pick a canon is to never continue it ever, but I'm happy we got this show at all.
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Video games sequeling other choice-based video games run into the same issue, and you quickly forget once you're in it that maybe you treated Shady Sands differently than the canonized decision about it. As it takes place further in the future than any of the games, it acknowledges what happened in their past, creates new events that happened since we last saw them, and also steers them in new directions, because people change, and the old leaders would have long since been replaced by new ones. That's all just part of continuing a story. The only way to avoid having to pick a canon is to never continue it ever, but I'm happy we got this show at all.
Bg1 and 2, Dragon age, and mass effect famously had save imports, so "the only way" doesn't check out.
The dark souls games are so far removed in time that the previous game is legend, so that's an option.
For the tv show they also could have, as I said, just set it somewhere and somewhen else. They can have rumors about what's happening in Vegas, but it's 20 years ago and you're in Chicago, so who knows what's true.
So, yeah, they could've done something else and still made a TV show.
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Bg1 and 2, Dragon age, and mass effect famously had save imports, so "the only way" doesn't check out.
The dark souls games are so far removed in time that the previous game is legend, so that's an option.
For the tv show they also could have, as I said, just set it somewhere and somewhen else. They can have rumors about what's happening in Vegas, but it's 20 years ago and you're in Chicago, so who knows what's true.
So, yeah, they could've done something else and still made a TV show.
BG2 only takes a few things from the previous game and throws out the rest. I haven't played Dragon Age, but Mass Effect and Telltale infamously had "the choice diamond" where they respect your choices up until it has to eventually lead somewhere, so they all end up funneling back into only a few options. These are just different ways to dress up the same problem. Fallout the TV show does exactly the same thing as Fallout 2 did to Fallout 1, which is the same as your Dark Souls example: it's set far enough in the future that you're unlikely to run into anything contradictory.
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We don't get many high budget fantasy shows. I'm all for it. Larian is already moving away from bg anyways, I think wizards of the coast upped their licensing price by quite a bit.
Because HBO has a good track record for fantasy shows?
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Because HBO has a good track record for fantasy shows?
HBO has a good track record period. I'm guessing you mean GoT but that series is a gem until the last season. Even in the last season, the zombie fight lasted a whole episode and a half and was peak tv. House of the dragon was pretty good as well.
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I think it's a mistake to ride the coattails of Baldur's Gate 3.
Don't get me wrong, I think more Forgotten Realms stories could make for good TV. The Honor Among Thieves movie from a few years ago was fantastic, and there was supposed to be a live action TV series in the works after that.
But I just don't see why they'd give up on making one D&D TV series, only to start a brand new one with more baggage. Instead of telling an original story, they're tied down to a story continuity that is inevitably going to leave a lot of fans disappointed regardless of the direction they take.
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Saw a video about comedies from the early 2000's and some of the old heads were talking about how they didn't need IP's cuz the actors and the situation was all they needed. Paul Rudd has to do community service watching a kid. Jason Segal got dumped and goes on vacation to try and forget about his ex. Steve Carell is a virgin at 40, etc etc. It's crazy that every studio now seems to NEED an IP or else they can't make a movie.
From afar, you get the impression that suits are in charge and if there isn't already some "proof of popularity" of some sort, it won't get greenlit
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I think it's a mistake to ride the coattails of Baldur's Gate 3.
Don't get me wrong, I think more Forgotten Realms stories could make for good TV. The Honor Among Thieves movie from a few years ago was fantastic, and there was supposed to be a live action TV series in the works after that.
But I just don't see why they'd give up on making one D&D TV series, only to start a brand new one with more baggage. Instead of telling an original story, they're tied down to a story continuity that is inevitably going to leave a lot of fans disappointed regardless of the direction they take.
They think they can pull the RPG crowd to TV if they promise more time with their characters....but it also adds a mandatory cannon, so I'm pretty sure it'll have the opposite effect
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I missed those series dearly… My father and I used to pay it day and day out, we always wondered if they would make an actual budget movie that made sense and went along with the timelines… For some reason, Hollywood thinks that a fantasy movie that comes from DND has to be some “b” movie. considering how many people enjoy this type of thing you would think that it would be more poignant to make it big. just because it gets big, doesn’t mean that it has to be pushed into the category of mainstream. I don’t think… I would just really like to see a movie that actually does it justice. some of these fantasy series are just as big as something like Lord of the rings, but never got the recognition for it. so us (more nerdy folks ) have to just deal with this low budget of shit.
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That was an annoying thing, every Larian game that was released in EA had an EA price. BG3 didn't, it was full price from the start. And a highly inflated price than what Larian titles had been going for once released.
It’s almost as if they factored the cost of licensing a third-party IP into the price.
