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No wonder Reddit has turned to shit

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  • saarthS saarth

    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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    mulligrubs@lemmy.world
    wrote last edited by
    #85

    This doesn't explain why Reddit has decided that I need multiple Hindi sub referrals every day.

    Years and years of data regarding me, zero Hindi, zero Indian, zero interest, AND YET here's another suggested Hindi sub! Fantastic work.

    But the Jesus ads sealed the deal, adios Redditto

    apologies for my off topic ramble, but I feel better.

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    • saarthS saarth

      Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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      lechekaflan
      wrote last edited by
      #86

      More than a decade and a half later and pretentious SEO fanatics still fucking make my eyes roll.

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      • tomiantT tomiant

        Good actors too, it's the nature of capitalism.

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        MotoAsh
        wrote last edited by
        #87

        Who is the 'good' actor in this 'capitalism' thing?

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        • mulligrubs@lemmy.worldM mulligrubs@lemmy.world

          This doesn't explain why Reddit has decided that I need multiple Hindi sub referrals every day.

          Years and years of data regarding me, zero Hindi, zero Indian, zero interest, AND YET here's another suggested Hindi sub! Fantastic work.

          But the Jesus ads sealed the deal, adios Redditto

          apologies for my off topic ramble, but I feel better.

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          Oascany
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          #88

          This is so funny because I'm Indian and I've never come across a Hindi sub on Reddit.

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          • N noxastrum@lemmy.ca

            I have no idea what any of that means, and I'm happy with that.

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            Sjmarf
            wrote last edited by sjmarf@sh.itjust.works
            #89

            ELI5:

            ChatGPT can search Google to give better answers. Reddit threads often appear as top search results.

            Let’s say you work in marketing at a chocolate company. You can use this guy’s script to find Reddit posts that ChatGPT might read when someone asks it about chocolate. The script replies to each post and praises your chocolate, specifically.

            When ChatGPT reads the thread, it might tell people about your chocolate.

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            • saarthS saarth

              Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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              gmtom@lemmy.world
              wrote last edited by
              #90

              Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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              • T TWeaK

                It's a grift, but it's extra steps. It's not about affecting the experience on reddit, but for AI users. They use reddit to plant answers, which AI then trains on and regurgitates later.

                Eventually the reddit thread would probably balance out, and incorrect information should get downvoted and replaced by corrections from people who know better. However AI might not account for this and could still spit out the planted information. It's this delicate manipulation that this LinkedIn Lunatic is bragging about here.

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                ultranaut@lemmy.world
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                #91

                Eventually the reddit thread would probably balance out, and incorrect information should get downvoted and replaced by corrections from people who know better.

                This seems optimistic.

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                • T TWeaK

                  For it to happen in the Fediverse AI would have to be training on the Fediverse.

                  That's what this post is about. Using reddit to plant comments that AI trains on, and subsequently getting AI to spit out your answer to questions it's asked.

                  As such this can happen anywhere where AI is being trained. The issue is with how AI is training, not with how websites it trains on are being operated.

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                  ultranaut@lemmy.world
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                  #92

                  There isn't really any reason to think the Fediverse won't be used for AI training, if it isn't already. Everything is in the open here, it's easy enough to scrape all the data.

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                  • J jmill@lemmy.zip

                    My god. Somehow I hadn't thought of doctors using LLMs to make decisions like that. But of course at least some do.

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                    general_effort@lemmy.world
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                    #93

                    You never want to know how the sausage is made.

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                    • gmtom@lemmy.worldG gmtom@lemmy.world

                      Anyone that works in marketing needs to be flogged in the streets for their crimes.

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                      cosmonauticus@lemmy.world
                      wrote last edited by
                      #94

                      Nahhhh. When ads are clever or funny its fine. This lower effort bullshit need to die

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                      • M MotoAsh

                        Who is the 'good' actor in this 'capitalism' thing?

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                        tomiant
                        wrote last edited by
                        #95

                        It's more of a technical concept within the lore than an actual character.

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                        • saarthS saarth

                          Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                          sudoer777@lemmy.ml
                          wrote last edited by
                          #96

                          Reddit feels like Quora at this point with all the affiliate links and promotions

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                          • saarthS saarth

                            Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                            rumba@lemmy.zip
                            wrote last edited by
                            #97

                            That entire fucking add was just lazily written by an AI.

                            "Developer" can't be bothered to add "don't to use emoji or bullet points in prompts and dont add a summary and def don't add a second summary at the end?

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                            • T TWeaK

                              It's a grift, but it's extra steps. It's not about affecting the experience on reddit, but for AI users. They use reddit to plant answers, which AI then trains on and regurgitates later.

                              Eventually the reddit thread would probably balance out, and incorrect information should get downvoted and replaced by corrections from people who know better. However AI might not account for this and could still spit out the planted information. It's this delicate manipulation that this LinkedIn Lunatic is bragging about here.

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                              jack_burton@lemmy.ca
                              wrote last edited by
                              #98

                              So it's more of a circle jerk for people who can't provide anything useful and have to pretend they have value. Seems like it's just putting more effort into not working than just doing the work itself.

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                              • john_tJ john_t

                                There's no algorithm to be played in the fediverse. The reward is too low for all the work of making a post visible, and it won't carry to the next post, essentially starting all over again.

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                                Schadrach
                                wrote last edited by schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org
                                #99

                                There’s no algorithm to be played in the fediverse.

                                There presumably is. Some metric decides visibility on the feeds. That algorithm not being based on corporate profitability doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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                                • saarthS saarth

                                  Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                  herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml
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                                  #100

                                  Reddit has been agressively banning data dumps of the Epstein files.

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                                  • saarthS saarth

                                    Marketers and their bots have been using reddit to hype up brands. No wonder Reddit feels like shit these days.

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                                    theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
                                    wrote last edited by theseveraljourneysofreemus@lemmy.world
                                    #101

                                    The linkedin writing format must be banned, exhausting, unreadable and way too self important. It's not a haiku write like a normal person you lunatic. Also these bots are destroying public forums, don't expect any praise from me.

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                                    • A allzeitbereit@feddit.uk

                                      It'll happen in the Fediverse too.

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                                      brendansimms@lemmy.world
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #102

                                      Not if you use NORD VPN ™, fellow human. NORD VPN ™ guarantees filtering of astroturfing comments made by LLMs! Thats right - NORD VPN ™ does the following:

                                      • Filters out comments made by LLMs
                                      • Does not sell your data
                                      • Filters out comments made by LLMs
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                                      • A allzeitbereit@feddit.uk

                                        It'll happen in the Fediverse too.

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                                        wrote last edited by umbrella@lemmy.ml
                                        #103

                                        yeah, i havent seen anyone come up with a solution so far. nobody really seems to know when i bring it up.

                                        usually some implication the problem is gonna solve itself. we might be fucked. eventually.

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                                        • K kahnclusions@lemmy.ca

                                          100% written by an LLM. They always use this tone and it’s infuriating.

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                                          ByteOnBikes
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                                          #104

                                          People who abuse GenAI no longer can tell when the shit they post look like GenAI. They only talk to AI so it looks normal to them.

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