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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • G goferking (he/him)

    As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.

    I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed

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    Blaze (he/him)
    wrote last edited by blaze@piefed.zip
    #104

    Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

    --

    Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

    • the thorn character filter
    • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
    • the "this filter" being configurable

    My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

    • multicommunities
    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
    • crossposts comments consolidation
    • communities moderation features
    • posts and user flairs
    • keyword filters

    None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

    What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

    That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

    I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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    • B bb84@mander.xyz

      The version from 10 years ago, yeah. It's here https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit.

      There's a modern and production-ready open source alternative. It's called Lemmy. You can find the source here https://github.com/lemmynet/lemmy

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      Blaze (he/him)
      wrote last edited by
      #105

      Lemmy is missing several features that Piefed has had for more than a year now: https://piefed.zip/post/1008300#comment_3561702

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      • W wiki_me@lemmy.ml

        Right now i don't see any movement in the amount of donations (patreon, liberapay). so i am not kinda skeptical this will end up being meaningful growth.

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        wonderrin@sh.itjust.works
        wrote last edited by
        #106

        Donating is great, sure, and they're probably more likely to stick around if they paid, but just because someone isn't donating doesn't mean they won't be active in the comments or by making posts. Not to mention they might spread the word to friends, some of whom might donate.

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        • G Grail

          Memes is a banned url, huh? Okay, let's test this scientifically. After I make this comment, I'm gonna go to !memes@lemmy.world and see if I get any posts.

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          flames5123@sh.itjust.works
          wrote last edited by
          #107

          Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. That’s a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You don’t understand the code.

          Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.

          See this for proof: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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          • H huquad@lemmy.ml

            Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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            flames5123@sh.itjust.works
            wrote last edited by
            #108

            Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

            See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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            • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

              Huh? You just linked a community on lemmy.world. That’s a lemmy instance. The person above you is referring to piefed. You don’t understand the code.

              Piefed has all the shit code that bans a bunch of stuff. They also delete your comment if it starts with a gif link. And then put your social score down one. They also block you from downvoting if your votes are negative (more downs than up). There so much dumb shit because there are against actual free speech.

              See this for proof: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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              Grail
              wrote last edited by
              #109

              Me shocked to learn that PieFed (the software I am currently using) will delete My comment if it starts with a gif (like this one does)

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              • P punkisundead [they/them]

                Maybe it can be one day but right now it’s 100% not production-grade software.

                Why should we only use "production-grade software" software on the Fediverse? Isnt the beauty that we can use all kind of software as long as it interacts decently via the relevant protocols?

                Also I am already using Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs. This does not seem to be anything that would stop, especially when I can actually read the code as its in a language I can atleast understand somewhat

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                sortekanin@feddit.dk
                wrote last edited by
                #110

                Lemmy, which is pretty known for its opinionated devs

                The opinions of the devs have so far (at least as far as I know) not spread into the actual code though.

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                • W wonderrin@sh.itjust.works

                  Woah, I haven't heard about this. Are those temp bans on specific subreddits or a site-wide ban for not being pro-Trump?

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                  Sir. Haxalot
                  wrote last edited by
                  #111

                  It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".

                  The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf

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                  • Sir. HaxalotS Sir. Haxalot

                    It was 3 day site wide bans as I understood it. Reason given was that saying that Greenland should defend itself was "threatening violence".

                    The thread in question, thing it is in r/Sweden https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/s/BvEiqSM2cf

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                    wonderrin@sh.itjust.works
                    wrote last edited by wonderrin@sh.itjust.works
                    #112

                    I'm probably applying too much logic here which Reddit admins don't seem to like, but... how can defending oneself if something happens (not even preemptively, but after the fact) be threatening violence, while Trump repeatedly saying they're gonna own Greenland one way or another is not threatening violence?

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                    • B bb84@mander.xyz

                      If the code is bad, you realise only coders would notice it from reading that?

                      That's what makes it particularly sad. The people who didn't read the code have no idea what they're in for.

                      What hardcoded bans are you referring to here? The 4chan one that can be disabled?

                      How about this one?
                      'enoughmuskspam', 'political_weirdos', 'piracy', 'memes' are hardcoded banned. 196 used to be banned to but they removed it from the "bad list".

                      Also "can be disabled" does not excuse hardcoded filtering. If they're serious they could implement a config system in an hour.

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                      die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                      wrote last edited by die4ever@retrolemmy.com
                      #113

                      obviously not that "hardcoded" since piefed.zip can access these things just fine

                      https://piefed.zip/c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world

                      https://piefed.zip/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      piefed.ca too https://piefed.ca/c/memes@lemmy.world

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                      • G goferking (he/him)

                        I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do

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                        Skavau
                        wrote last edited by
                        #114

                        And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

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                        • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                          Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                          I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                          So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                          https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                          --

                          Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                          • the thorn character filter
                          • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                          • the "this filter" being configurable

                          My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                          • multicommunities
                          • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                          • crossposts comments consolidation
                          • communities moderation features
                          • posts and user flairs
                          • keyword filters

                          None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                          What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                          That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                          I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                          rglullis@communick.news
                          wrote last edited by
                          #115

                          All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.

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                          • H huquad@lemmy.ml

                            Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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                            Deceptichum
                            wrote last edited by
                            #116

                            Way more features, actually gets updates, and awesome devs who take on feedback and make changes.

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                            • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                              Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

                              See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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                              typhoon@lemmy.ca
                              wrote last edited by
                              #117

                              A bunch of tankies whining around anti-spam/bot, anti-AI and defederating from tankie instances. I see no problem here.

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                              • S Skavau

                                And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

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                                goferking (he/him)
                                wrote last edited by
                                #118

                                Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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                                • G goferking (he/him)

                                  Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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                                  Skavau
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #119

                                  Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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                                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                    Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                                    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                                    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                                    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                                    --

                                    Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                                    • the thorn character filter
                                    • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                                    • the "this filter" being configurable

                                    My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                                    • multicommunities
                                    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                                    • crossposts comments consolidation
                                    • communities moderation features
                                    • posts and user flairs
                                    • keyword filters

                                    None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                                    What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                                    That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                                    I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                                    goferking (he/him)
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #120

                                    Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.

                                    None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                                    I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.

                                    Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.

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                                    • S Skavau

                                      Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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                                      goferking (he/him)
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                                      #121

                                      Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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                                      • G goferking (he/him)

                                        Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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                                        Skavau
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #122

                                        Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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                                        • S Skavau

                                          Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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                                          goferking (he/him)
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #123

                                          No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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