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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

    Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

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    Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

    • the thorn character filter
    • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
    • the "this filter" being configurable

    My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

    • multicommunities
    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
    • crossposts comments consolidation
    • communities moderation features
    • posts and user flairs
    • keyword filters

    None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

    What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

    That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

    I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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    rglullis@communick.news
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    #115

    All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.

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    • H huquad@lemmy.ml

      Been looking to migrate off .ml, can y'all sell me on switching to piefed?

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      Deceptichum
      wrote last edited by
      #116

      Way more features, actually gets updates, and awesome devs who take on feedback and make changes.

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      • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

        Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

        See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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        typhoon@lemmy.ca
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        #117

        A bunch of tankies whining around anti-spam/bot, anti-AI and defederating from tankie instances. I see no problem here.

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        • S Skavau

          And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

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          goferking (he/him)
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          #118

          Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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          • G goferking (he/him)

            Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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            Skavau
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            #119

            Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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            • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

              Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

              I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

              So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

              https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

              --

              Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

              • the thorn character filter
              • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
              • the "this filter" being configurable

              My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

              • multicommunities
              • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
              • crossposts comments consolidation
              • communities moderation features
              • posts and user flairs
              • keyword filters

              None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

              What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

              That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

              I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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              goferking (he/him)
              wrote last edited by
              #120

              Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.

              None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

              I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.

              Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.

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              • S Skavau

                Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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                goferking (he/him)
                wrote last edited by
                #121

                Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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                • G goferking (he/him)

                  Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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                  Skavau
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                  #122

                  Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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                  • S Skavau

                    Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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                    goferking (he/him)
                    wrote last edited by
                    #123

                    No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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                    • G goferking (he/him)

                      No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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                      Skavau
                      wrote last edited by
                      #124

                      Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

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                      • S Skavau

                        Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

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                        goferking (he/him)
                        wrote last edited by
                        #125

                        Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

                        Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

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                        • G goferking (he/him)

                          Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

                          Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

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                          Skavau
                          wrote last edited by skavau@piefed.social
                          #126

                          "Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

                          You are talking to Skavau.

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                          • S Skavau

                            Okay? It's still a massive surge of new users relative to older growth.

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                            wiki_me@lemmy.ml
                            wrote last edited by
                            #127

                            Which is not useful if those users are people who try out the platform and then abandon it, or worst bots for state actors.

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                            • W wiki_me@lemmy.ml

                              Which is not useful if those users are people who try out the platform and then abandon it, or worst bots for state actors.

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                              Skavau
                              wrote last edited by
                              #128

                              Should we just not celebrate any growth at all?

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                              • S Skavau

                                "Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

                                You are talking to Skavau.

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                                goferking (he/him)
                                wrote last edited by
                                #129

                                So you do/can see the hostility from the language used. So piefed pr

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                                • G goferking (he/him)

                                  So you do/can see the hostility from the language used. So piefed pr

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                                  Skavau
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #130

                                  No, I'm seeing hostility used from others across the wider fediverse. I don't think anything he said there was really specifically hostile at all in any thread. A complete reach.

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                                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                    Lemmy is missing several features that Piefed has had for more than a year now: https://piefed.zip/post/1008300#comment_3561702

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                                    bb84@mander.xyz
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #131

                                    Did you put the right URL? That URL links to a comment about the 4-chan image blocking and reputation loss.

                                    If this is the feature you consider to be missing from Lemmy, then yes, please let it remain missing. I definitely don't want anything like it.

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                                    • G Grail

                                      No, just one purpose, the second one.

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                                      bb84@mander.xyz
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #132

                                      That contradicts what @skavau@piefed.social told me.

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                                      • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                        Did you put the right URL? That URL links to a comment about the 4-chan image blocking and reputation loss.

                                        If this is the feature you consider to be missing from Lemmy, then yes, please let it remain missing. I definitely don't want anything like it.

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                                        Blaze (he/him)
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #133

                                        Copy pasting the comment content just to be sure

                                        Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                                        I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                                        So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                                        https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                                        --

                                        Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                                        • the thorn character filter
                                        • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                                        • the "this filter" being configurable

                                        My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                                        • multicommunities
                                        • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                                        • crossposts comments consolidation
                                        • communities moderation features
                                        • posts and user flairs
                                        • keyword filters

                                        None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                                        What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                                        That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                                        I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                                        • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                                          Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

                                          See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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                                          hector@lemmy.today
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #134

                                          Deal breaker for me. Although Lemmy is not all that tolerant of dissenting views either I hear.

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