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Piefed monthly user activity has increased by nearly 500 in 3 days.

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  • G goferking (he/him)

    Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

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    Skavau
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    #119

    Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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    • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

      Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

      I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

      So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

      https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

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      Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

      • the thorn character filter
      • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
      • the "this filter" being configurable

      My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

      • multicommunities
      • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
      • crossposts comments consolidation
      • communities moderation features
      • posts and user flairs
      • keyword filters

      None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

      What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

      That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

      I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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      goferking (he/him)
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      Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.

      None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

      I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.

      Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.

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      • S Skavau

        Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

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        goferking (he/him)
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        #121

        Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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        • G goferking (he/him)

          Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

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          Skavau
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          #122

          Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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          • S Skavau

            Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

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            goferking (he/him)
            wrote last edited by
            #123

            No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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            • G goferking (he/him)

              No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

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              Skavau
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              #124

              Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

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              • S Skavau

                Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

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                goferking (he/him)
                wrote last edited by
                #125

                Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

                Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

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                • G goferking (he/him)

                  Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

                  Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

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                  Skavau
                  wrote last edited by skavau@piefed.social
                  #126

                  "Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

                  You are talking to Skavau.

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                  • S Skavau

                    Okay? It's still a massive surge of new users relative to older growth.

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                    wiki_me@lemmy.ml
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                    #127

                    Which is not useful if those users are people who try out the platform and then abandon it, or worst bots for state actors.

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                    • W wiki_me@lemmy.ml

                      Which is not useful if those users are people who try out the platform and then abandon it, or worst bots for state actors.

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                      Skavau
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                      #128

                      Should we just not celebrate any growth at all?

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                      • S Skavau

                        "Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

                        You are talking to Skavau.

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                        goferking (he/him)
                        wrote last edited by
                        #129

                        So you do/can see the hostility from the language used. So piefed pr

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                        • G goferking (he/him)

                          So you do/can see the hostility from the language used. So piefed pr

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                          Skavau
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                          #130

                          No, I'm seeing hostility used from others across the wider fediverse. I don't think anything he said there was really specifically hostile at all in any thread. A complete reach.

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                          • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                            Lemmy is missing several features that Piefed has had for more than a year now: https://piefed.zip/post/1008300#comment_3561702

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                            bb84@mander.xyz
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                            Did you put the right URL? That URL links to a comment about the 4-chan image blocking and reputation loss.

                            If this is the feature you consider to be missing from Lemmy, then yes, please let it remain missing. I definitely don't want anything like it.

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                            • G Grail

                              No, just one purpose, the second one.

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                              bb84@mander.xyz
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                              #132

                              That contradicts what @skavau@piefed.social told me.

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                              • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                Did you put the right URL? That URL links to a comment about the 4-chan image blocking and reputation loss.

                                If this is the feature you consider to be missing from Lemmy, then yes, please let it remain missing. I definitely don't want anything like it.

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                                Blaze (he/him)
                                wrote last edited by
                                #133

                                Copy pasting the comment content just to be sure

                                Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                                I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                                So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                                https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                                --

                                Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                                • the thorn character filter
                                • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                                • the "this filter" being configurable

                                My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                                • multicommunities
                                • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                                • crossposts comments consolidation
                                • communities moderation features
                                • posts and user flairs
                                • keyword filters

                                None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                                What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                                That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                                I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                                • F flames5123@sh.itjust.works

                                  Piefed has so many issues. It’s great at adding new features, but it’s so bad at free speech.

                                  See this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/23662293

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                                  hector@lemmy.today
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                                  #134

                                  Deal breaker for me. Although Lemmy is not all that tolerant of dissenting views either I hear.

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                                  • Blaze (he/him)B Blaze (he/him)

                                    Copy pasting the comment content just to be sure

                                    Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

                                    I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

                                    So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

                                    https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

                                    --

                                    Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

                                    • the thorn character filter
                                    • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
                                    • the "this filter" being configurable

                                    My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

                                    • multicommunities
                                    • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
                                    • crossposts comments consolidation
                                    • communities moderation features
                                    • posts and user flairs
                                    • keyword filters

                                    None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

                                    What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                                    That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

                                    I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

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                                    bb84@mander.xyz
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                                    #135

                                    Having features does not make it good software. It remains true that the code quality is abysmal and there ARE hardcoded blocks based on what the dev(s) dislike.

                                    What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

                                    I hope I am not spreading any misinformation. If any of my complaints is factually incorrect, please point it out.

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                                    • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                      obviously not that "hardcoded" since piefed.zip can access these things just fine

                                      https://piefed.zip/c/enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world

                                      https://piefed.zip/c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                      piefed.ca too https://piefed.ca/c/memes@lemmy.world

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                                      bb84@mander.xyz
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                                      #136

                                      Hardcoded means the filter is in the source code (as opposed to being in a config file or database). Whether or not it can be disabled/circumvented is a different matter.

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                                      • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                        Hardcoded means the filter is in the source code (as opposed to being in a config file or database). Whether or not it can be disabled/circumvented is a different matter.

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                                        die4ever@retrolemmy.com
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                                        #137

                                        irrelevant when it can be disabled anyways

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                                        • B bb84@mander.xyz

                                          Okay. It's still unclear to me why piracy was not picked up by default. It's a very big comm.

                                          Anyhow, good luck on the merge request! Would be great to let the admin decide what to block instead of the weirdly random selection of comms and words on the list now.

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                                          Skavau
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                                          #138

                                          https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1618

                                          Already passed it on, and it's in the pipeline now.

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